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US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | June 12, 2009 | Tom Leonard

Posted on 06/12/2009 11:11:02 AM PDT by Schnucki

Dozens of US cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic "shrink to survive" proposals being considered by the Obama administration to tackle economic decline.

The government looking at expanding a pioneering scheme in Flint, one of the poorest US cities, which involves razing entire districts and returning the land to nature.

Local politicians believe the city must contract by as much as 40 per cent, concentrating the dwindling population and local services into a more viable area.

The radical experiment is the brainchild of Dan Kildee, treasurer of Genesee County, which includes Flint.

Having outlined his strategy to Barack Obama during the election campaign, Mr Kildee has now been approached by the US government and a group of charities who want him to apply what he has learnt to the rest of the country.

Mr Kildee said he will concentrate on 50 cities, identified in a recent study by the Brookings Institution, an influential Washington think-tank, as potentially needing to shrink substantially to cope with their declining fortunes.

Most are former industrial cities in the "rust belt" of America's Mid-West and North East. They include Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Memphis.

In Detroit, shattered by the woes of the US car industry, there are already plans to split it into a collection of small urban centres separated from each other by countryside.

"The real question is not whether these cities shrink – we're all shrinking – but whether we let it happen in a destructive or sustainable way," said Mr Kildee. "Decline is a fact of life in Flint. Resisting it is like resisting gravity."

Karina Pallagst, director of the Shrinking Cities in a Global Perspective programme at the University of California, Berkeley, said there was "both a cultural and political taboo" about admitting decline in America.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: California; US: Michigan; US: Pennsylvania
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To: MrB
"The good news is that even if the collectivists did succeed in oppressing the entire country, they’d have to deal with a constant barage of snipers and guerilla warfare forever."

Interesting point. I was suprised to read some years ago that the guerilla warfare in the Ukraine against the Soviet Union was not fully supressed until 1950! (The source for this was "Special Tasks", by Pavel Sudaplatov. Highly recommended)
141 posted on 06/12/2009 4:17:50 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: alloysteel

I’m trying to think of the New Netherland style town, an eighteenth century jewel, which bulldozed its city center in anticipation of Urban Renewal money. The place would have been worth billons as a tourist destination today. Now it’s just another mid sixties sh*thole because the funds never showed up.


142 posted on 06/12/2009 4:22:35 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Uh, Mr. President, did you lose your contact lense OR ARE YOU PRAYING?)
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To: alloysteel
Something like this was done back in the early days of the LBJ “Great Society”, when it was called “Urban Renewal”, when whole blocks of older residences were summarily described as “blighted”, and bulldozed, opening up a whole new opportunity for land use change.

Uh-huh, and how well did that turn out for the country.

I was raised in Washington D.C. so let me tell you about those wonderful new opportunities using only one street as an example.

North Capitol street which ran from the Capitol to Maryland had an effective privately owned streetcar system. One could ride the street car in the spring and summer and barely see the sky all the wonderful trees lining it. From Union Station, a stone's throw from the Capitol one could board a streetcar and take it all the way to Glen Echo Amusement Park with the last leg a very scenic passage. .

LBJ's cronies rammed through a highway system down the middle of North Capitol Street widening it substantially by seizing through eminent domain. They also managed to destroy every small business which had lined the street previously, almost all of which were minority owned.

The remaining townhouses which had previously enjoyed small front yards, many with fruit trees ( the peaches were really nice) and wide sidewalks were tight up against retaining walls and narrow sidewalks. In the course of the highway construction what had been essentially a thriving quiet black middle class neighborhood property values plummeted and the business and property owners fled to other neighborhoods or left the city entirely. A whole sector of people who worked locally lost their jobs and all too many went on welfare. ( That's another discussion altogether.) The decline continued at an increasing pace from that point on

I wish that the had been a time lapse movie made of just that one street, you would weep at the loss.

143 posted on 06/12/2009 4:23:43 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: DonaldC
This idea in places like Detroit (iirc) where there are tens of thousands of empty houses, may not be a bad one.

That what this is about. Getting rid of the now worthless abandoned housing that is occupied by crack addicts. Raise the houses and create parks. Sounds like a plan to me.

144 posted on 06/12/2009 4:34:53 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: RockinRight
So Obama is proposing bulldozing large abandoned areas of mostly BLACK cities?

That's were the large abandoned areas are.

145 posted on 06/12/2009 4:36:55 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: MrB

Us too.


146 posted on 06/12/2009 4:39:34 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Just making way for the planned communities we’ll all be forced to live in.


147 posted on 06/12/2009 4:42:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Schnucki

Bulldoze Detroit? That city is the automobile industry icon.........


148 posted on 06/12/2009 4:45:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun in an Indy car....)
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To: Doe Eyes

Memphis is NOT a large abandoned area. It has grown to encompass almost the entire county. And there are many non-black residents. Your logic is not applicable.


149 posted on 06/12/2009 4:46:54 PM PDT by callisto (It's the three T's: Too Many Taxes, Trillions in Debt, and Transparency)
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To: grellis; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive
UK Telegraph | June 12, 2009 | Tom Leonard
Posted on 06/12/2009 3:04:37 PM PDT by re_tail20
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2270694/posts


150 posted on 06/12/2009 4:50:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: callisto
I suppose bulldozing is slightly preferable to selling/trading/giving it to China to pay off that part of the debt...
151 posted on 06/12/2009 4:51:35 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 144 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Schnucki

This land will be confiscated with the sole purpose being the land will be planned according to Dear Leader’s sardine-can planning, then sold to foreign developers to produce it.


152 posted on 06/12/2009 4:51:48 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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To: reefdiver

I drove through Buffalo 20 years ago and it was very sad even then.


153 posted on 06/12/2009 4:54:23 PM PDT by goldi
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To: Mac from Cleveland

From “Flint” to “Obamagrad”

That’s a keeper!


154 posted on 06/12/2009 4:58:15 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: null and void
I don't expect him to give the Chinese that much to pay off the debt. He intends on spending us into slavery.
155 posted on 06/12/2009 5:06:11 PM PDT by callisto (It's the three T's: Too Many Taxes, Trillions in Debt, and Transparency)
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To: Schnucki
Dr. Michael Coffman - call your office!

If you don't know about Dr. Coffman, read the about the Bio-Diversity treaty. It will knock your socks off. Dr. Coffman and Henry Lamb are heroes for their efforts. Imagine entire cities in the western US - like Denver, bulldozed and turned over to a natural reserve under the jurisdiction of the UN.
156 posted on 06/12/2009 5:11:56 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Schnucki

Liberals take over in Washington; and our cities get bulldozed.


157 posted on 06/12/2009 5:12:18 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: Schnucki

Make sure to make them “car-free” zones. You can park an Obamamobile if you pay a premium, though.


158 posted on 06/12/2009 5:13:51 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Covenantor

Why do you assume a decrease in crime when every effort at subsidized low income housing since FDR has resulted in higher crime rates.
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I am not advocating some sort of subsidized home, I am advocating absolutely NO housing in those areas. A park or a nature preserve would see a reduction in crime. True, crime happens in Central Park in NYC, but people don’t live in the park. It would be easier to enforce after dark.

I agree with you on the political aspect. As I was cutting my lawn just now, a smaller Detroit would mean fewer political precincts/wards to monitor on election day. Elecition judges/officers would not be spread so thin. I would think that the most blighted areas of a city is where the voting fraud is done because it would be hard to prove where people live.


159 posted on 06/12/2009 5:17:30 PM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: Schnucki
Detroit Ground Zero for Economic Collapse Pt 4

This is an interesting video. Most interesting is to look at the buildings and imagine them new. Detroit had an extremely high standard of living at one time from looking at these old houses.

160 posted on 06/12/2009 5:17:51 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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