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US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | June 12, 2009 | Tom Leonard

Posted on 06/12/2009 11:11:02 AM PDT by Schnucki

Dozens of US cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic "shrink to survive" proposals being considered by the Obama administration to tackle economic decline.

The government looking at expanding a pioneering scheme in Flint, one of the poorest US cities, which involves razing entire districts and returning the land to nature.

Local politicians believe the city must contract by as much as 40 per cent, concentrating the dwindling population and local services into a more viable area.

The radical experiment is the brainchild of Dan Kildee, treasurer of Genesee County, which includes Flint.

Having outlined his strategy to Barack Obama during the election campaign, Mr Kildee has now been approached by the US government and a group of charities who want him to apply what he has learnt to the rest of the country.

Mr Kildee said he will concentrate on 50 cities, identified in a recent study by the Brookings Institution, an influential Washington think-tank, as potentially needing to shrink substantially to cope with their declining fortunes.

Most are former industrial cities in the "rust belt" of America's Mid-West and North East. They include Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Memphis.

In Detroit, shattered by the woes of the US car industry, there are already plans to split it into a collection of small urban centres separated from each other by countryside.

"The real question is not whether these cities shrink – we're all shrinking – but whether we let it happen in a destructive or sustainable way," said Mr Kildee. "Decline is a fact of life in Flint. Resisting it is like resisting gravity."

Karina Pallagst, director of the Shrinking Cities in a Global Perspective programme at the University of California, Berkeley, said there was "both a cultural and political taboo" about admitting decline in America.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: California; US: Michigan; US: Pennsylvania
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To: dragnet2

No. I had heard it on a History Channel documentary.

Not everything in this world has a link.


101 posted on 06/12/2009 1:24:35 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Obama - A flexible container of vinegar and water)
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To: DonaldC

“Somebody needs to photoshop obama into a borg image...hehe”

Resistance to my change is futile.


102 posted on 06/12/2009 1:30:47 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (If a muslim terrorist contracts swine flu, does he still get his 72 virgins?)
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To: Mac from Cleveland

“Barackistan!” pronounced like “Pocky-ston”


103 posted on 06/12/2009 1:40:19 PM PDT by ponygirl ("Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.")
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To: dragnet2
But there is this...

“...when
Franklin deplored the shocking condition of its streets,
especially in wet weather, or when Washington had to
wade through mud to get to the theatre where he found
his recreation. It has become actually the Filthydelphia
somebody once called it in jest...”

http://www.archive.org/stream/ourphiladelphia00penn/ourphiladelphia00penn_djvu.txt

104 posted on 06/12/2009 1:40:53 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Obama - A flexible container of vinegar and water)
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To: Drill Thrawl
Oh, so your talking about in colonial days when they didn't have paved streets, with rain and mud..

I was talking about the scum of the earth that have trashed many of our cities in modern times.

105 posted on 06/12/2009 1:48:22 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Either way the city sux.


106 posted on 06/12/2009 1:56:02 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Obama - A flexible container of vinegar and water)
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To: Drill Thrawl

I found out long ago, it’s generally not the land, the town or city that sucks, unless they just have brutal nasty weather, but it’s the people, that will generally turn a once nice area, into a nasty, disgusting pit.


107 posted on 06/12/2009 2:01:09 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: N3WBI3

Sure - but leave it to the cities to do that, not the Federal Gov’t.


108 posted on 06/12/2009 2:22:40 PM PDT by RockinRight (How do you like your Savior now, libs? Looks like Jimmy Carter is no longer the worst President...)
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To: Schnucki

So Obama is proposing bulldozing large abandoned areas of mostly BLACK cities?


109 posted on 06/12/2009 2:23:43 PM PDT by RockinRight (How do you like your Savior now, libs? Looks like Jimmy Carter is no longer the worst President...)
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To: Schnucki
In Detroit, shattered by the woes of the US car industry, there are already plans to split it into a collection of small urban centres separated from each other by countryside.

Actually, that's not a half bad idea. Bulldozing the blighted areas (And I mean blighted the way sensible people, not the Kelo court, would define the term!) would have the potential for restoring property values in the surviving areas. Imagine that there are two residential areas separated by a rusted hulk of an abandoned factory. Bulldoze the factory and give each neighborhood an attractive (read: curb appeal) greenbelt. Now both areas have higher property values.

The idea has potential. What will put a stop to it is the thorught that someone somewhere might turn a profit as a result. Liberals just can't stand that. They'd prefer the rusted out factory.

110 posted on 06/12/2009 2:23:57 PM PDT by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; Free ThinkerNY; ...

The list, ping


111 posted on 06/12/2009 2:24:17 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Schnucki
the city must contract by as much as 40 per cent, concentrating the dwindling population and local services into a more viable area.

Hitler had the roads into the mountains blocked off, so as to concentrate the population and local services into more viable areas. Worked out well for all, didn't it?

112 posted on 06/12/2009 2:28:06 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Redcloak

FWIW, abandoned buildings are a major reason for crime in a given area.


113 posted on 06/12/2009 2:28:16 PM PDT by RockinRight (How do you like your Savior now, libs? Looks like Jimmy Carter is no longer the worst President...)
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To: Clemenza

Brilliant!


114 posted on 06/12/2009 2:29:30 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: frposty

why bulldoze? The riots that are sure to come will take care of this without using taxpayor money.

Then, just don’t rebuild.


115 posted on 06/12/2009 2:31:59 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Schnucki

But, but, but.....where will all the ‘latte-drinkin’-liberals’ live? ;-)


116 posted on 06/12/2009 2:32:20 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP; All

117 posted on 06/12/2009 2:34:04 PM PDT by potlatch ( When You Change The Way You Look At Things - The Things You Look At Change)
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To: RockinRight

I agree; the Cites in question should submit proposals to first state and the federal governments outlining..

1) Maps of what areas are being plowed under

2) What savings in terms of infrastructure support this will provide.

3) What compensation is being provided for any home owners who will have property taken

Truth of it is unless this is done right youll just create urban parks that are havens or crime..


118 posted on 06/12/2009 2:37:29 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: meadsjn
Hitler had the roads into the mountains blocked off, so as to concentrate the population and local services into more viable areas. Worked out well for all, didn't it?

Actually it did. It made Germany easier to bomb.

119 posted on 06/12/2009 2:38:21 PM PDT by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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To: Schnucki
a pioneering scheme in Flint, one of the poorest US cities, which involves razing entire districts and returning the land to nature.

They can start with releasing Michael Moore into the wild, to join his fellow feral pigs.

120 posted on 06/12/2009 2:42:52 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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