Posted on 06/10/2009 8:11:59 AM PDT by tlb
NEW YORK (ABP) -- A former Southern Baptist Convention officer who on June 2 called the death of abortion provider George Tiller an answer to prayer said later in the day he is also praying "imprecatory prayer" against President Obama.
Wiley Drake, pastor of First Southern Baptist Church in Buena Park, Calif., and former running mate of American Independent Party presidential candidate Alan Keyes, said June 2 on Fox News Radio he didn't understand why people were upset with his comments quoted by Associated Baptist Press from a webcast of his daily radio talk show.
"Imprecatory prayer is agreeing with God, and if people don't like that, they need to talk to God," Drake told syndicated talk-show host Alan Colmes. "God said it, I didn't. I was just agreeing with God."
Asked if there are others for whom Drake is praying "imprecatory prayer," Drake hesitated before answering that there are several. "The usurper that is in the White House is one, B. Hussein Obama," he said.
Later in the interview, Colmes returned to Drake's answer to make sure he heard him right.
"Are you praying for his death?" Colmes asked.
"Yes," Drake replied.
"So you're praying for the death of the president of the United States?"
"Yes."
"If he does not turn to God and does not turn his life around, I am asking God to enforce imprecatory prayers that are throughout the Scripture that would cause him death, that's correct."
Drake said he didn't pray for Tiller to be murdered -- only that God would take his life by some method -- but that he "absolutely" believed that God wanted the doctor dead.
"I believe the whole Bible, Alan," he explained. "I don't just preach part of it. I don't just preach the soft, fuzzy, warm stuff where we're supposed to be nice to everybody. I preach the whole Bible."
Part of the Bible, Drake claimed, is imprecatory prayer -- words of judgment in the Psalms prayed back to God -- a practice he said the church has lost.
"This whole concept that we're always to pray little, nice, soft, fluffy, prayers -- that we're not to pray imprecatory prayer -- has been something that just, in all honesty, that Southern Baptists have lost, and we need to regain imprecatory prayer," Drake said. "It is in the Bible, and we are proud to say as Southern Baptists that we believe the Book. You've got to believe the whole Book, brother, or you don't believe any of it."
Asked if he claimed to know God's will, Drake replied: "In some cases I do. Not in all cases. I know this, that if I do die right now, I'll go to heaven when I die because I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. That's why I'll go to heaven and not to hell. And the reason George Tiller went to hell when he died was not because he killed babies, as terrible as that was. If he went to hell, and I think he did -- that's God's judgment and not mine -- but if he did go to hell it's because he did not accept Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior."
Drake said he did not believe Tiller's accused killer is a pro-life Christian.
"I'm of the opinion -- and now everybody's going to say 'There goes Wiley down the conspiracy-theory road,' I'm of the opinion that somebody in the Obama camp had this guy killed."
"Who benefits the most from this man killing a doctor?" Drake asked. "We certainly don't. Pro-life people certainly don't. It hurts us. It damages us, but Obama will indeed advance it. This will be one of those crises to take advantage of, and he's already done that."
Drake said he had no evidence and admitted his opinion for now is "pure speculation."
Last thing we need is for Obama to be worshipped as a martyr by his minions. Let’s just get him out of the White House peacefully and legally ASAP.
Funny how all of the libs who prayed for W to die never got any press coverage.
I’ll get worried when I see effigy of Obammy dragged through American streets and burned.
Where was the MSM when Bush was being called “murderer”, “war criminal” and “retard”?
Just don’t let it happen any way but by God’s way. I don’t think we need him to be a hero for the ages!
I just pray that people will finally see through the Democrat demi-god and he will leave broken and disgraced...as he should.
They got press coverage....and the “press” agreed with every Bush poster, sign and effigy
Let his days be few; [and] let another take his office.
Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
- Psalms 109:8-9
They don’t pray, but they made a movie about their fondest desire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWOWyHWj6M
Stinking liberal hypocrites!
I’d post a comment but I don’t look forward to any little informal visits from the Black Panthe, er that is, the Secret Service!
Yeah, look at all the Kennedys we’ve been saddled with since 1963. They should be drinking together in
Massachusetts and would be if not for Lee Harvey. I don’t care that this guy in Kansas got popped. He chose a “live by the sword” life and the principle played itself out. It’s a spiritual law like a law of physics that I can’t change. It just is. As to the “going to hell” statement, I do believe that we are not to speculate on that kind of eternal judgement. I personally am glad that is God’s job and not mine. The permanent closing of “Tiller’s Temple of the Barbaric Sacrament” is a good thing, but I don’t think we’ve seen the end of the events set in motion by this killing.
This is an example of the limp-wristed clergy, that the US has all too many of. The reverend, apparently, doesn’t have the cajones to oppose Obama on his ideas, so he asks God to do the dirty work for him.
Wuss.
I doubt this guy is going to expend any personal effort in opposing Obama’s agendas. I’ll bet God really scratches his/her/its head over some the requests that come up from Earth.
I’d rather see Obama humiliated and held to account under a system of justice for his attempt to undermine and ultimately destroy the foundations of our economy along with his friends at ACORN.
Problem is that if Hussein Obama dies and gets his 72 virgins in whatever place Muslims go, then we are stuck with President Joe Biden. If there is a bigger idiot on Earth, we’d be hard pressed to find him. The America-hating Muslim or the colossal idiot? Hmmmm...
Very seldom is a muslim your better choice - bring on the idiot.
“Are you praying for his death?” Colmes asked.
“Yes,” Drake replied.
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That sounds like a good thing for pray for. No, this isn’t humor or sarcasm. Praying for Obama’s death, in that God had control over all these things and He can take anyone’s life at any time — I think it’s a perfectly fine thing to pray for Obama’s death at the hands of God.
It’s when it is death at the hands of “man” that it becomes a crime.
BUT, no one is going to charge God with a crime, if God causes his death...
What a beautiful prayer.
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[ of course, I would first preface such a prayer with the desire that God try and reach Obama’s heart for salvation in having him trust in Jesus, the Messiah of Israel for his personal salvation, per the Scriptures, as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has given them to us. But, if Obama refuses to respond and hardens his heart against God, in this, then God should take Obama’s life. That would be my only “proviso” for God taking the life of Obama...]
We should all be praying for his salvation first, and if he refuses, then we should be praying that God directly take Obama’s life. God is just and righteous and He’s already said that *all* deserved to die, because of their sin. And if Obama does not repent of his sins and turn to the Messiah of Israel for his salvation, then God is righteous and just to take his life and remove him from the face of this earth...
You said — Just don’t let it happen any way but by God’s way. I don’t think we need him to be a hero for the ages!
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Yeah, just let Obama be found, hanging by a rope that he put around his own neck in an auto-sexual-arousal routine that he practices... LOL...
You said — The America-hating Muslim or the colossal idiot? Hmmmm...
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Actually, with that choice, I would go for the colossal idiot... :-)
Why is this even posted here? Why is anyone even giving a nut like this a microphone? It makes us all look bad.
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