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Two Dems defect to GOP in NYS.
NYTimes ^ | June 8 2009 | Peters and Hakim

Posted on 06/08/2009 1:29:17 PM PDT by eleni121

Updated, 4:15 p.m. | ALBANY – Democrats appeared to have lost their majority in the New York State Senate on Monday, in a stunning and sudden reversal of fortunes for a party that has controlled the chamber for barely five months.

(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: albany; gop; ny; ny2009; nygop; nystatesenate
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To: LikeLight

“Wow, anti-socialist revolution springing up everywhere!”

Wonderful!


121 posted on 06/08/2009 5:48:40 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: myself6

lol. Skelos is much more conservative then Bruno, he’s no RINO, that’s reality, look it up.


122 posted on 06/08/2009 5:55:33 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and help stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: eleni121; McGruff

I have been talking to people the past couple weeks and knew something was coming. The straw that broke the camels back was Antionne Thompson sponsoring the gay marriage bill, he is my senator. In the past couple days even Stachowski was considering voting for it for party unity... Sell outs.

Brillant move!!


123 posted on 06/08/2009 5:56:06 PM PDT by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: Liz

They are eating each other and Smith is as dumb as a box of rocks!


124 posted on 06/08/2009 5:57:32 PM PDT by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: eleni121

Drive by poster.


125 posted on 06/08/2009 6:03:20 PM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: Tzimisce

Financial disaster is already inside the room breathing down the necks of the corrupt politicians and their backers.

NYS has mortgaged the next 50 years to pay for the social programs and union demands that are strangling us. It will take a lot more than a couple bums from NYC to keep the wolves at bay.


126 posted on 06/08/2009 6:07:57 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: eleni121

Let’s be careful how heartily we celebrate. Remember 1994.
1994 became, in part, a Democrat takeover of the Republican party. We still have not been able to get rid of them.
Watch out. Just sayin’


127 posted on 06/08/2009 6:17:51 PM PDT by cybervyk
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To: The Mayor
Smith is as dumb as a box of rocks!

LOL---my conclusion as well. How he got as far as he did politically is a miracle.

128 posted on 06/08/2009 6:26:10 PM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: eleni121

For all of you who are poo-pooing this turn of events, let me remind you that until November the NYS senate was the only legislative body preventing full-on gun grabbing in this state.

When Dems took control in November of the senate, they controlled the entire legislature and governor seat. The anti-gunners were slobbering in their lust to just take away everything else we had left. Microstamping was just about to come up for a vote in the senate which would have become law if passed.

Now things are in upheaval and maybe the Republicans can maintain control of the senate. If so, we may be saved from further tyranny for a while.

So, while the defections may not be conservative types, I, and every other conservative here, will and should be thankful for this.


129 posted on 06/08/2009 6:28:22 PM PDT by GnL
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To: The Mayor
Was this Malcolm's dumbest move (or just one of them)?

May 11, 2009
Malcolm Smith rebukes Bronx Senator Pedro Espada Jr. for failing to file disclosure reports.
By Nicholas Confessore
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/11/smith-rebukes-bronx-senator-over-campaign-filings/

Senate majority leader, Malcolm A. Smith, rebuked a key member of his Democratic majority for failing to file disclosure reports, promising “immediate action” if Sen Pedro Espada Jr., who represents part of the Bronx, did not file the reports within a week.

The move comes two days after Mr. Smith stripped another Democratic senator, Kevin S. Parker of Brooklyn, of a committee chairmanship after Mr. Parker’s arrest over the weekend on charges that he assaulted a NY Post photographer — his second such arrest since being elected in 2002.

Nor is Mr. Parker the only Senate Democrat facing felony assault charges. Hiram Monserrate of Queens, elected last fall, stepped down from his own committee chairmanship in March when he was indicted on charges that he attacked his companion. He is fighting the case.

“I don’t think it’s raining problems, the fact that a member has a challenge with his campaign finances....” Mr. Smith said of Mr. Espada. “So basically, he’s got to correct it. He has until this time next week to correct it, or else I will take some action.”

When he was elected last year, Espada owed $60,000 in fines dating from his 2001 run for Bronx borough president. Those issues were raised anew this weekend in an article in The New York Daily News, no doubt a discomfort to Mr. Smith.

But as one of the so-called Three Amigos who withheld their support for Mr. Smith earlier this year and threatened to side with Republicans in a vote over control of the Senate, Mr. Espada did not get much criticism from his Democratic colleagues for those lapses — until now.

Though he did not speculate what action he would take against Mr. Espada should the senator fail to straighten out his campaign paperwork, the public rebuke signals that Mr. Smith, after enduring weeks of questions over whether he can maintain party discipline in the Senate, may be drawing a line.

Senate Democrats promised to tighten the state’s campaign finance laws when they won control last fall and are preparing to introduce new legislation on the subject — but before they can do that, it would seem, they need to get Mr. Espada into compliance with the existing law.

130 posted on 06/08/2009 6:53:01 PM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: eleni121

They are “new” Republicans like Arnold and Colin Powell, not conservatives.

I don’t know a damn thing about them, but I feel safe in saying that.

(See Spectre, Arlen)

Whoever they were have no core beliefs.

I don’t trust them and I’ve never met them. I know enough already. Anybody who switches sides like that without a philosophical reason is an opportunistic self preserving douche.


131 posted on 06/08/2009 6:53:52 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: eleni121

I feel like shouting “Nanny Nanny Boo Boo” to the Dems. After what Specter did, which they rubbed in our faces, this is great!


132 posted on 06/08/2009 6:54:29 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: eleni121
This is great news, Eleni! Just when I was going through another grim day with Obama in charge - this kind of news is very uplifting and satisfying.

Thanks much for the ping.

133 posted on 06/08/2009 6:55:55 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: eleni121

I think this basically is a ploy to protect RATS from their own extreme retoric.
With the democrats controlling everything in the state, there is no longer any excuse for not passing gay marriage and several hundred of the other uberliberal agenda items and talking points. The RATS desperately need a legislative roadblock from some terminally crazy legislation even they do not to pass and have to live with. and they need someone to blame when the moveons gripe about it. So voila-—a instant yet selective roadblock is produced. They can continue to throw red meat to the only marginally humaoid sector of the liberals yet only pass the part of it they actually want done. Plus they get to constantly hammer the REPUBs with the ensured help of the state-run media.

Retoric all over the map, legislation they actually want, little to no blame when the result stink (its the Senate’s fault after all) and continued electoral advantage.


134 posted on 06/08/2009 6:57:42 PM PDT by rod1
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To: LikeLight

If they are Colin Powell type Republicans, they can stay with the Rat Party.


135 posted on 06/08/2009 6:59:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: eleni121

Wow! Let this open a floodgate!!!!!!!!


136 posted on 06/08/2009 7:04:48 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: PGR88

Yeah, when you put it that way.......):

It’s impossible to make a meal out of such crumbs.


137 posted on 06/08/2009 7:07:32 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: myself6
So they switched from one wing of the socialist party to the other? I honestly dont see what people are getting happy about.

Socialists still control it. Does it really matter if they call themselves a democrat of republican?

Your cynicism is abhorrent to the principles that define FR. FR is against socialism, of course, and many of us on FR support the GOP with the approval of FR's owner. If the GOP were a socialist party, those supporting it would've all been banned a long time ago!

Today's move gives the GOP control of the senate - important for organizational matters and navigating legislation through the state system.  The national GOP needs to be reformed, and some of its members (who some call RINOS) and the GOP in the NYS Senate in particular might not be your conservative cup of tea, but I'm sick and tired reading posts from cynical, shallow, small-minded individuals chronically equating the GOP with the socialists. 

The perfect is the enemy of the good.  So take a good, clear look at the political landscape - the nation isn't anywhere near as conservative as we are on FR. Holding out for some fantasy conservative tidal wave at this moment is counter productive, as the other side methodically advances their agenda.

If you think that there is no difference between Obama's policies of destruction, and the policies of most GOP Governors or past Republican presidents, you have a very serious problem. 

138 posted on 06/08/2009 7:08:28 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Impy; eleni121; Clemenza; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; yongin; Norman Bates; ...

Excellent news! Maybe one or two more may defect.


139 posted on 06/08/2009 7:08:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: eleni121

Is this for real? And in NY, of all ‘blue’ locales? I can’t believe it! I hope it’s true though.


140 posted on 06/08/2009 7:13:19 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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