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California contemplates ultimate reform - no welfare (WOW!)
McClatchy ^ | 6/8/09 | Cynthia Hubert

Posted on 06/08/2009 6:44:38 AM PDT by Crazieman

Could California become the first state in the nation to do away with welfare?

That doomsday scenario is on the table as lawmakers wrestle with a staggering $24.3 billion budget deficit.

County welfare directors are "in shock" at the very idea of getting rid of CalWORKs, which has been widely viewed as one of the most successful social programs in the state's history, said Bruce Wagstaff, director of the Department of Human Assistance in Sacramento.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; calbudget; california; calworks; economy; obama; welfare
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To: Crazieman

What do they mean when they describe a social program as successful?


41 posted on 06/08/2009 7:15:36 AM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: Tenacious 1

Appreciate your well thought out reply!
FRegards!


42 posted on 06/08/2009 7:16:04 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: Crazieman

I hope they don’t. The bums in California will move to other states to become bums there.


43 posted on 06/08/2009 7:16:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: truthkeeper

The zero will come riding to the rescue with pallets of freshly printed money to hand out.


44 posted on 06/08/2009 7:18:07 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Beagle8U

Uh... there is no “Correct” link or “Correct” title. They’re both legitimate (leftist) news services. I spotted this on Drudge.


45 posted on 06/08/2009 7:18:50 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Crazieman

Just two days ago, (R)nold said he still supported benefits for illegals.


46 posted on 06/08/2009 7:23:23 AM PDT by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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To: Crazieman
The article and the author are from the SacBee.

I think fair use copyright laws require the proper credits for the article.

47 posted on 06/08/2009 7:23:39 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Nephi

canyoubelievethis.wmv


48 posted on 06/08/2009 7:26:57 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: junta
junta said: "Overpaid old white liberal union thugs versus a growing welfare class of young minorities, now there is a grudge match I would pay to see."

It's popcorn time. Let's look forward to the environmentalists joining the fray, too. Then there's the anti-gunners and the other nanny-staters. The county employees are going to get shafted by the state. And millions of illegals. Lot's of fun ahead.

49 posted on 06/08/2009 7:28:03 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Tenacious 1

They’ll come to Utah. Trust me. Utah will be the next Blue State.

Many of them are already here. I run into them at every turn (which is why I’m going to post a Vanity in the next week or so about FReepers directing me to Texas). They are in the grocery store, the drug store, living behind me as renters (sundays are a riot around here) They are behind me in the stores, using their state provided debit cards. (Now you know why we aren’t crying over Huntsman going to China! He’s RINO squared!)

Here in S. Utah, we are getting the worst of it. We are getting the escaping CA homeowners and taxpayers (who are bringing their addled liberal brains with them), we are getting the AZ amigos who are no longer allowed to work there, and we’re getting the refugees of all stripes from Vegas, who cannot earn two Kennedy half dollars...even in a single day.

I love the geography, but I’m getting out as soon as is reasonable.


50 posted on 06/08/2009 7:28:44 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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To: Beagle8U

McClatchy OWNS the freaking sacbee


51 posted on 06/08/2009 7:29:01 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: Daisyjane69

Actually, this would be a brilliant move, they welfare folks would all move to neighboring states and california would be freed of about half it’s population, and then those states would become overwhelmed so they cancel welfare too and so on and so on ...


52 posted on 06/08/2009 7:30:53 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Crazieman; All
County welfare directors are "in shock" at the very idea of getting rid of CalWORKs, which has been widely viewed as one of the most successful social programs in the state's history, said Bruce Wagstaff, director of the Department of Human Assistance in Sacramento.

LOL! Don't tase me bro!

Great thread. Thanks to all posters.

53 posted on 06/08/2009 7:33:27 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Crazieman
I checked out this 'CalWORKs' website. And wow is that some program. Among one *benefit* is that....
They give CASH to illegals.
I prolly shouldn't say anything as that would be racist but I will....
California isn't alone. When I go to my state of IL website it's a maze of 'FREE' gubmint programs available to everyone except for *regular people* who really need some temporary assistance.

And my County Website is the same -- a program for this, a program for that, but NO PROGRAMS for *regular people* who need some temporary help.

It really does seem that all these programs are for the generational layabout gubmint leeches, illegals and criminals. So it's no wonder almost every state is broke and FUBAR.

The thought police will prolly be at my door any minute now. /s

54 posted on 06/08/2009 7:33:52 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Crazieman
As California and and Massachusetts go, so goes the U.S.
55 posted on 06/08/2009 7:36:03 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Kozak

“Wow. All of a sudden there will be PLENTY of people clamoring for those jobs “americans won’t do”......”

Yeah, it’ll be like: “I don’t care how much you paid for them damn sneakers, get out there and pick that lettuce!”


56 posted on 06/08/2009 7:36:13 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Ev Reeman

Since your post wasn’t a link, I googled it, but no success there, either.


57 posted on 06/08/2009 7:37:52 AM PDT by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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To: Crazieman

This is no more than a scare tactic, similar to the old familiar threat to close all of the police and fire stations should a certain tax demand fail at the polls. Hussein will ride to the rescue, further cementing the loyalty of voters the left began purchasing decades ago with that little, temporary program called welfare. I mean, the PEOPLES REPUBLIK of Kalifornia turn to capitalism...demand personal responsibility...stop the purchase of votes for the democrat party??!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA


58 posted on 06/08/2009 7:39:31 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Tenacious 1

unfortunately, there are only 2 places to go with lifetime welfare benefits, and I believe the influx would be in the peoples democatik republik of michiganstan....


59 posted on 06/08/2009 7:41:50 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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To: Crazieman

The state is even worse off than totally broke.

Lefties measuring success of a program without any consideration as to how that program is to stay funded.

How stoopid are people?


60 posted on 06/08/2009 7:42:33 AM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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