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1 posted on 06/05/2009 9:05:03 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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neat-o. does this qualify as a fish thread?


2 posted on 06/05/2009 9:06:24 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: GodGunsGuts

I used to date a girl who must’ve had some sea urchin in her DNA....


3 posted on 06/05/2009 9:06:24 AM PDT by freebilly
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4 posted on 06/05/2009 9:07:14 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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5 posted on 06/05/2009 9:07:56 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Just keep posting the same crevo crap over and over?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2221106/posts


6 posted on 06/05/2009 9:08:11 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Too much materialism in your excerpt for me.


7 posted on 06/05/2009 9:09:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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11 posted on 06/05/2009 9:12:32 AM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

i stepped on a sea urchin once with my full weight. it wasn’t pretty. neither was what i had to do in order to help with the pain.


12 posted on 06/05/2009 9:14:24 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Fascinating. It doesn’t push me in the direction of intelligent design over natural selection but things like this always increase my awe and respect for life.


13 posted on 06/05/2009 9:15:28 AM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: GodGunsGuts

Mr. Thomas again masters the great leap of taking a singular supposed example and making great inferences where none exist. Sea urchins are very niche specific and have no competition in that niche. They had no selective pressure to change their feeding apparatus. However, if Brian had bothered to go any farther than a cursory glance at one article he would have noted that there are over 6000 species of urchins. Fundamentally, sea urchins represent a well diversified phylogenetic tree.


14 posted on 06/05/2009 9:16:57 AM PDT by FormerRep
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“What makes these teeth so special that they can drill through rock “

Answer ... The animal’s teeth must be harder than limestone, just as diamonds are harder than glass.

Consider aslo that limestone is a sedimentary rock ... the product of sediment collecting on tue bottom of some ancient lake, river or ocean; and that limestone is a far less hard substance than granite, a metamorphic rock.


16 posted on 06/05/2009 9:27:02 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (The essence of evil.lies in the irrational)
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The aurhor of the article is Brian Thomas, M.S.*

And the little reference star ("*") leads to this at the bottom of the article...

* Mr. Thomas is Science Writer at the Institute for Creation Research.

Which ieads to the question: who is Brian Thomas, and what are his credentials?

Wikipedia doesn't have him ...

21 posted on 06/05/2009 10:01:09 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (The essence of evil.lies in the irrational)
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The teeth are composed of crystals in plate and needle patterns that interlock, “like the fingers of folded hands.”2 In addition, the concentration of magnesium atoms in the crystals is graded such that the highest concentration of magnesium is found at the very tip of the tooth—where the main grinding pressure occurs. Thus, the magnesium is conserved and used to harden the teeth exactly where the need is most critical.

There are no transitional sea urchin teeth, and sea urchins are fully sea urchins wherever they are found. Their abundance in certain rock strata need not be interpreted as representing some kind of ancient “time of sea urchins.” Rather, it represents the catastrophic burial of a sea urchin-rich habitat that occurred early in the global Flood described in Genesis. And the precisely regulated manufacturing process that forms the sea urchins’ teeth can only be the result of a supreme Designer

23 posted on 06/05/2009 10:07:43 AM PDT by sr4402
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From the article:

“The sea urchins that were preserved in rock layers must also have had these specialized grinding teeth.”

Why *must* they have had such teeth? What leads Brian Thomas MS* to that conclusion?


25 posted on 06/05/2009 10:14:21 AM PDT by Natufian (The mesolithic wasn't so bad, was it?)
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First the creationist assumption:

The sea urchins that were preserved in rock layers must also have had these specialized grinding teeth.

Mr. Thomas could've just looked at the available evidence, but "creation science" is generally a fact-free activity.

Second is the conclusion based on the assumption:

The sudden appearance in fossils of “the mature sea urchin tooth [with] incredible structural and compositional complexity”1 contradicts Darwin’s evolutionary claim that animals “advance by the shortest and slowest steps.”4

A claim with no evidence.

And of course, evolutionary biology begins and ends with Darwin for "creation scientists", except when cosmology is involved.

Does Mr. Thomas know Darwin is dead?

27 posted on 06/05/2009 10:29:16 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: GodGunsGuts

God is amazing with His creation.


29 posted on 06/05/2009 10:36:04 AM PDT by rawhide
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One thing that will never evolve: The IQ of a regular ICR reader.


30 posted on 06/05/2009 11:29:57 AM PDT by Eddeche
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