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Sarah Barajewda Eshet Chayil". Eshet Chayil means a "Woman of Valor" in Hebrew and it is the title of a peom written by King Solomon in the book of Proverbs.
Posted on 06/03/2009 1:43:42 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
American Jews overwhelmingly voted for Barack Obama, the Candidate of Change, despite credible warnings and ample evidence that he would obsessively seek to create a Palestinian state at Israel's expense and "engage" nuclear-arming, Islamist Iran.
After four months of Change, Obama's support in the Jewish community seems rock solid. Besides, many Jews say, Obama's appointment of two Jews to key White House positions - Rahm Emanuel as chief of staff and David Axelrod as presidential senior adviser - proves Obama is OK for Israel. So what if the meeting with Netanyahu didn't go as well as first advertised? Bibi's a right-winger, anyway. Under Obama, there was a kosher Passover Seder in the White House. Progress! Hope! Change!
Hmm. The head-spinning, stomach-turning developments make this lifelong Jewish supporter of Israel think Hitler made two big blunders in his quest for world domination. He attacked the Soviet Union - and he did not invite American Jewish leaders to a catered kosher lunch in Berlin before the war.
Seriously. Had Hitler been able to hide his fanatical hatred of Jews for only a few hours, he might have been able to mobilize liberal American Jewish opinion in favor of a policy of appeasement toward Nazi Germany - perhaps, even, a formal pledge of non-interference in Germany's internal affairs.
Admittedly, a free kosher lunch might not have been enough to win over the so-called Jewish leaders. The Nazi madman probably would have had to appoint a Jewish adviser (on Jewish affairs, say) to accomplish his aim.
A high-level Jewish adviser - yes! That would have worked wonders for the Fuhrer. The Jewish leaders would have returned home to reassure their concerned fellow Jews and the American media that Hitler had no intention of starting a war, regardless of Germany's ominous rearmament and military buildup; that he was instead interested in forging a closer relationship between Germany and the United States, one that could possibly even lead to an alliance of some sort to preserve peace in Europe.
As for "the Jewish Problem," the American Jewish bigwigs would have said that while some Jews were indeed suffering in Germany, there really was room for progress - quietly, of course, behind the scenes. Quiet, patient, principled diplomacy - that's the ticket!
And so it would have gone. Dialogue and diplomacy are the answers, the Jewish leaders would have said; no sanctions, no big, public protests - they would only make matters worse for Germany's Jews and needlessly antagonize the Nazis. No talk of armed intervention or future conflict, heaven forbid.
The impact of their meeting with Herr Hitler and call for engagement and dialogue would have been instant (or what passed for instant in the time before television and the Internet). Overnight, the brave minority warning of a rising, imperialist threat across the ocean would have been marginalized -maybe forever. Following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, there could have been a crucial decision by the U.S. government to avoid or delay declaring war on Germany as well as Japan, perhaps accompanied by a presidential speech reminding the public of Germany's great contributions to Western civilization and culture and to the shaping of American society.
Though the anti-Semitic rabble - the foot soldiers in armbands and jackboots and white sheets - would have been appalled by Hitler's meeting with Jewish leaders, the Fuhrer's more sophisticated American supporters and sympathizers would have understood his diabolically clever move. Influential isolationists and fascists - the Pat Buchanans of that era - would have laughed all the way to the next America First or German American Bund (or Silver Shirts, or Black Legion, or Ku Klux Klan) rally.
The Roger Cohen of that day - there is always a Roger Cohen whenever and wherever Jewish communities are threatened with annihilation and persecution - would surely have written a series of articles for The New York Times about Jewish conditions in Germany being not so bad after all, despite the beatings and racial laws, the persecution and the humiliation, the incessant anti-Semitic propaganda. (In fact, the liberal Jewish columnist Walter Lippmann wrote approvingly of Hitler in the late 1920s, advising his readers that the Nazi leader would "moderate" his views upon achieving power.)
Obama is no Hitler. Obviously. God help us if that were the case. But Obama's policies and actions are giving new Hitlers - the leaders of Islamist Iran - time to develop nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles capable of destroying Israel and bringing America to its knees.
In other words, Obama's appeasement of Iran and betrayal of Israel is effectively helping to prepare the ground for a new Holocaust and a new world war.
And American Jews and Jewish organizations - seemingly slavishly bound to a Democratic Party with a left wing that now views the establishment of Israel as a mistake - are going along for the ride. American Jewish voters overwhelmingly chose Obama over John McCain, a proven friend of Israel, and they don't seem at all ready to jump ship. They are not even close to the exit ramp.
What will it take for American Jews to stand up and be counted? Would a call by Obama for a Palestinian capital in Jerusalem open their eyes? Probably not. In contrast with bible-believing Christians and observant Jews, liberal Jews are fashionably forsaking Israel's capital. Strong support for Israel is so yesterday ... so ... Bush/Cheney.
The time is fast approaching for American Jewry to decide between loyalty to a political party that bears no resemblance to that which their parents and grandparents adored for generations and their professed love of Israel whose security, along with the security of the United States, is being undermined by everything Obama is presently doing, has done, and plans to do.
With whom do you stand, American Jews - America and Israel or Obama and the Democratic Party?
No, it's not a tactic, it's a simple fact. Your historical source, the IHR, appeals to neonazis, Holocaust deniers, and assorted Jewhaters. Be careful, relying on the hate community for historical facts may rot your brain. And in any case has no business on this site. There are plenty of right wing hate sites you can peddle the IHR message on, some leftist sites too.
when Carter seemed sort of pro-Arab and evangelical believe it or not....they dumped Dems temporarily and voted Reagan....last time Jews supported GOP I think
to be so darn clever and bright they sure lack political acumen over and over
i actually thought this last time they would vote more for GOP than lately due to Obama's muzzie bs but they didn't messianic humanism and voting against what they see as Christian conservatism is a heavy siren call to many Jews......I've had very reasonable Jews i know explain it to me about like that...especially about keeping Christian conservatism in check
there is so much irony in this I can't keep up with it
i would not know what to do if more Jews were more like me...probably less political arguments in my personal life
Not in a categorical sense -- you are absolutely right. But I do believe that citizenship and loyalties are closely linked. There is a question of community, ZC: to which community do you or I or others belong? Once we have decided, integrity requires us to live out that reality in concrete ways. General Lee for example, having decided that he was primarily a Virginian, joined himself to a cause he considered hopeless -- out of integrity with his self-understanding.
Why should they stand with a country founded by heretical puritanical freemasons?
It's an excellent question. Here's another: why should they stand with a country founded by ethnic-cleansing terrorists (oh, wait -- that includes America too)?
I am not trying to bait you, ZC; indeed, even though we frequently disagree, I have a lot of respect for you. It's because of this respect that I toss out serious, principled questions:
1. Does USA=Obama, as the thread title all but insists? Are we conceding the notion that the American polity is now personal, invested in the Leader, whoever he may be? Are we now officially a country of men and not of laws?
2. Should ethnicity trump other aspects of community? If we're to say yes, can non-Jewish Americans regard their Jewish neighbors as equally committed to the communities of which they're nominally citizens? Is this good for the community at large? Is this good for Jews? What does citizenship mean to Jews?
The ugly subtext to the title of this thread is that Jews belong no place but their own country and elsewhere are not to be viewed as loyal. Do we really want to go there?
> If the Jews don’t support Israel, why should we?
Read your Bible.
And if you don’t believe that, then just think of Israel as the canary in the coal mine. Israel is the ONLY friend we have in the Middle East.
I quite agree. Keep on fighting the good fight!
Bump!
Ethnic cleansing terrorists? Sounds like Joshua at Jericho!
I am not Jewish. But I believe there is One loyalty for every being in existence, and that is to the True G-d. This trumps community, country, family, ethnicity--everything. This is one reason I get so flustered when people argue for chr*stianity based on American history rather than the actual claims of chr*stianity itself (as I said, it's just another way of sayng "deze are de wayz of our pipplez"). When searching for the Universal Truth, the religious opinions of the founders of the United States of America are a very minor bit of evidence.
The thing is that (again, from my own perspective) G-d has chosen to communicate with and teach the world not via an abstract religious philosophy or a universal organization but via an ethnic group--so much so that membership in this ethnic group (as laid out in Divine Law) is not based on beliefs but on who one's mother was, so that if one was born to a Jewish mother, one is Jewish and bound by all the Halakhah of the Torah, whether one realizes it or not. So far as I know, a Jewish communist/fascist/moslem/chr*stian/secular humanist is still Jewish according to Halakhah with all that that implies. Everyone else is born a Noachide and bound by the Noachide law with all that that implies.
Of course, non-Jews may convert Halakhically to Judaism in which case they're full Jews whose mother and father are Sarah and Abraham.
If on the unlikely chance you are one of those handful of Catholics who accept that Genesis 1-11 is actual history rather than didactic mythology, I'd be happy to have you on my side in some of the battles on that topic.
See, I don’t deem the Temple superseced.
Hence, “a temple.”
Hence, “a temple.”
I know. I'm sorry if my post was worded so poorly that it implied that you did.
This is easy. They will support Obama and then when Israel is divided or destroyed, they will blame the POPE for not doing enough.
My tagline is a paraphrase of Israel’s response to Obama/Hillary Clinton’s demand that they abandon East Jerusalem’s settlements. Makes me proud to have voted for Bibi.
“Israeli Government Press Director Daniel Seamen reacted to this Obama administration statement by saying: “I have to admire the residents of Iroquois territory for assuming that they have a right to determine where Jews should live in Jerusalem.””
http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/05/29/top_stories/doc4a1f3b3710e19186990802.txt
That’s an interesting theory. It does sound plausible though - I wouldn’t rule it out!
That an IHR advocate accuses me of obsessive zealotry and blind self-righteousness doesn't surprise me a bit.
And of couse there were many Jews amongst the early Communists, not surprising given their treatment under the Czar. That's information available in numerous places, yet you choose a Holocaust denial site, the IHR, as your reputable source. Speaks volumes about your credibility.
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