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As Goes GM, So Goes the Country
Seeking Alpha ^ | June 3, 2009 | John Browne

Posted on 06/03/2009 10:36:17 AM PDT by arthurus

On Monday, after a painfully long death spiral, General Motors (GM) finally filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Oftentimes, bankruptcy portends rebirth. Unfortunately, the politically-inspired GM plan holds no such possibilities.

Under the current deal, the restructuring of GM will cost taxpayers some $100 billion (after the hidden costs of interest and refinancing are included). Even then, it is highly unlikely that GM will ever be competitive or that its debts will ever be repaid.

(Excerpt) Read more at seekingalpha.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: automakers; bailout; generalmotors; payback; unions

1 posted on 06/03/2009 10:36:18 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus
Government Motors logo
2 posted on 06/03/2009 10:41:35 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: arthurus
I would have to agree, the radical left wing agenda is breathlessly relishing its steamrolling over America.

obamunism

The Republic is practically dead with nary a whimper.

3 posted on 06/03/2009 10:43:47 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: arthurus
Even then, it is highly unlikely that GM will ever be competitive or that its debts will ever be repaid.
4 posted on 06/03/2009 10:47:44 AM PDT by org.whodat ("Way past time for new commodities regulation")
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To: arthurus

The only thing I would disagree about in this article is putting almost all the blame for GM’s failure on its unionized workforce. Oh, they did their part, all right, but GM’s management also made one bad decision after another - in product planning, and also in their “diversification” by ill-conceived acquisitions of other companies. GMAC and its subsidiaries were totally out of control. GM did not need Saturn to compete with its own existing brands. And so on.

I certainly do agree, though, that the main reason for this bailout was to save the UAW workers of GM and Chrysler, and will not otherwise achieve anything that couldn’t have been just as well achieved by reorganizing these companies without gov’t intervention when it first became apparent that they were no longer viable.


5 posted on 06/03/2009 10:49:13 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Bon mots

It is a stampede.
With the media basically acting as a pr branch of govt.
5 months in office, and all they have left to ram thru are Cap N Tax and Obamacare.


6 posted on 06/03/2009 10:50:40 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: -YYZ-

One take I read was that GM had to go out into other areas in a big way just to try to earn the money needed to meet their obligations to retirees for health and pension benefits. It still relfects foolish management in having made these commitments in the first place. Their “Di-Tech” outfit seemed to get heavily involved in the residential mortgage market and, back in ‘07, when I saw that begin to head south, coupled with lagging GM sales, I doubted whether they could last. I wish I had been “crazy” as many said I was at the time. I would much prefer to have been wrong.


7 posted on 06/03/2009 10:56:13 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: org.whodat
Gm and AIG, the same black-hole!!!
8 posted on 06/03/2009 11:03:59 AM PDT by org.whodat ("Way past time for new commodities regulation")
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To: -YYZ-
GM did not need Saturn to compete with its own existing brands. And so on.

Saturn, the new kind of car company, turned into the same old Sh**, in six months.

Gm business model, a small town has 2 hookers and ten johns, Gm management would double the number of hookers for the ten johns.

9 posted on 06/03/2009 11:07:39 AM PDT by org.whodat ("Way past time for new commodities regulation")
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To: nascarnation

You forgot the gun ban.


10 posted on 06/03/2009 11:09:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: arthurus
"Under the current deal, the restructuring of GM will cost taxpayers some $100 billion"

Another bold faced LIE. It has already cost some 50 billion up to this point, the multi 100's of billions that the UAW's pension fund and health benefits represents is a unfunded debt that must also be funded soon, unless the government plans to leave this albatross hanging around taxpayers necks like old age security, paid out of general revenue for all eternity.

GM is going to cost 100's of billions each and every year for the next 8 years, which is about how long it will take for this government to be overthrown by a massive armed revolt by a starving and desperate population.

11 posted on 06/03/2009 11:21:34 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: org.whodat
Gm management would double the number of hookers for the ten johns.

LOL! And they would be twice as fugly, diseased and cost twice as much.

12 posted on 06/03/2009 11:22:18 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Atypical Crustacean)
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To: arthurus
As Goes GM, So Goes the Country

Are we going to need a passport for the move to China?

13 posted on 06/03/2009 11:35:45 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: rock_lobsta
LOL! And they would be twice as fugly, diseased and cost twice as much.

Correct and feel free to repeat the GM business model wherever you wish.

14 posted on 06/03/2009 12:21:34 PM PDT by org.whodat ("Way past time for new commodities regulation")
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To: org.whodat; All

Things may not go as smoothly as the o administration would like...breaking:

Chrysler June 5 Sale Put on Hold by Appeals Court

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ais9w0DG6JKE


15 posted on 06/03/2009 12:26:42 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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