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Debra is exactly right.
1 posted on 06/02/2009 8:01:29 AM PDT by SmithL
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The timing could not be worse for the anti-abortion movement. Just last month, the Gallup Poll reported that 51 percent of Americans now call themselves pro-life rather than pro-choice on the issue of abortion.
People who are really Pro-Life do not commit or condone murder. Worse still, is that this murder will hurt the Pro-Life movement.
2 posted on 06/02/2009 8:03:07 AM PDT by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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Terrorism?

I guess this means we can say at least one act of terrorism happened in the USA under 0bama's watch.

3 posted on 06/02/2009 8:03:22 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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When the abortionist was alive, he should have been given the death penalty for participating in the killing of the 50 million unborn that this country has condoned. And that death sentence, should have been carried out by the “state” (not individuals) in having laws that outlaw the killing of the unborn.

And in addition, the guy who did the shooting, should also be given the death penalty, likewise by the state, for participating in the long-standing practice of murder, which God has condemned, just like abortion, from the beginning.


4 posted on 06/02/2009 8:04:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Suspect pleads not guilty in soldier's death By NOAH TRISTER [AP]A Muslim convert accused of killing a soldier in a "political and religious" attack on a military recruiting center pleaded not guilty Tuesday to a capital murder charge and was ordered held without bail.

What's Deb got to say about that?

5 posted on 06/02/2009 8:04:40 AM PDT by ex91B10 (The only response now is mass armed resistance.)
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“Thus by use of violence, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.”

These being the same people who celebrate every bomb blast in Tel Aviv ....


6 posted on 06/02/2009 8:04:54 AM PDT by mgc1122
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She may be right. But there has been far too much ink spilt on this low lifer and far too little spilt on William Long who also suffered a violent, politcally motivated death at about the same time as Tiller.
7 posted on 06/02/2009 8:05:31 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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Randall Terry has been shooting people?


10 posted on 06/02/2009 8:07:16 AM PDT by kenth
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And it doesn't help when Randall Terry, an anti-abortion activist, tells reporters, "George Tiller was a mass murderer.

What's wrong with that statement? I guess, since the law doesn't see fit to define "shredding a live baby with a dull knife" as "murder" then technically, Tiller was not a "murderer". Technically.

He was, undeniably, by his own proud assertion, a serial killer. And no possible justification exists for any of his killings. We should NOT hesitate to name him or his comrades in baby-killing as the cowardly serial killers that they are.

11 posted on 06/02/2009 8:08:22 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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The terrorism was committed by Tiller. Tens of thousands of butcherd, litrally butchered, bloody children under the color of law (sort of like Nazi Germany, eh?)

What the killer did was clearly illegal...but we may one day look back and see that these people, like John Brown, who also committd a crime and was put to death for it, were nonetheless on the right side of history.

Perhaps we need to stop worrying as much about public opinion, and start forthightly worrying more about what is right...and forthrightly expose abortion for the abject genocide it is, with no room for tolernce.

THE GRUESOME TRUTH OF THE ABORTION HOLOCAUST & THE DEATH OF DR. TILLER [Warning: A graphic photo of death & dismemberment]

“It is the grimmest of ironies that one of the most savage, barbaric acts of evil in history began in one of the most modernized societies of its time, where so many markers of human progress became tools of human depravity: science that can heal, used to kill; education that can enlighten, used to rationalize away basic moral impulses; the bureaucracy that sustains modern life, used as the machinery of mass death, a ruthless, chillingly efficient system where many were responsible for the killing, but few got actual blood on their hands.”–Barack Obama April 24, 2009, Holocaust Remebernce Day, Chicago Sun Times.

13 posted on 06/02/2009 8:09:32 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Right about what? Her column is muddle . . . and I’m being kind with that label.

She critiques the National Right to Life Committee for their statement, but their statement is in agreement with her. How lame is that?


16 posted on 06/02/2009 8:12:04 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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No, I believe Ms. Saunders is dead wrong in some respects. To wit:

I understand that anti-abortion activists considered Tiller's practice of late-term abortions to be heinous in and of itself - and they had a moral argument. But that moral argument is undermined by the shooting of a doctor - in a church, of all places.

How does the immediately condemned act of one individual reflect poorly - or at all - on the moral argument prsented by those that condemned the murder? The Unabomber was not deemed to have undermined the argument of environmentalists - he was labeled as a loony.

Guilt by association is dead wrong.

17 posted on 06/02/2009 8:12:38 AM PDT by MortMan (Power without responsibility-the prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages. - Rudyard Kipling)
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I have a question.....Tiller was shot in a Church....why aren’t they protecting Churches?


19 posted on 06/02/2009 8:13:51 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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Try this one on size for 'terrorism':

At least one baby has survived an attempted abortion at Tiller's clinic. "Baby Sarah" survived and was later adopted. She lived a few short years. During the attempted abortion, Baby Sarah turned away from the needle. So instead of injecting the lethal drug into Baby Sarah's heart, Tiller injected it into the side of her head. This left her alive but blind.

The trauma caused her mother to deliver early. Baby Sarah was born in the parking lot at Wesley Medical Center where hospital staff left her to die. A day later she was still alive. A hospital employee took pity on her, and she was adopted a few hours later by the Brown family.

Baby Sarah died a few years later due to complications caused by the attempted abortion.



How's that for 'terrorism'?


23 posted on 06/02/2009 8:15:59 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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“”I understand that anti-abortion activists considered Tiller's practice of late-term abortions to be heinous in and of itself - and they had a moral argument. But that moral argument is undermined by the shooting of a doctor - in a church, of all places. “”

That is quite a jump, Debra.

The moral argument is not undermined by the act of one person. Nor does that act by one person tarnish the the goodness of so many people.

It appears, somewhat, that people care less about the doctor and his family than in their incessant and ravenous attack of people who have a moral problem with abortion. Looking across the responses, it sometimes appears as if the aborta-marketers were relieved and felt the killing was "just what was needed" to break the tide towards life...

24 posted on 06/02/2009 8:19:34 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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The slaying also served to intimidate abortion providers - and perhaps chase some professionals out of the practice altogether. Thus by use of violence, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.

What he did was wrong. However, this is what happens when you are precluded from achieving things through the democratic process. If the courts hadn't taken this issue out of the hands of the people, there would be little need for any crazy people to feel they were powerless and needed to resort to violence.

Also, until we actually see an abortion provider quit, the whole notion of intimidation is moot. Of course, there are millions of Americans who won't walk the streets at night because of gang violence, so maybe if we are worried about intimidation we should put federal marshalls there, where the real problem is, rather than guarding hundreds of abortion clinics where there has been one killing in the past 3 years (oh, except the killing was in church, not at the clinic).

25 posted on 06/02/2009 8:20:55 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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"I understand that anti-abortion activists considered Tiller's practice of late-term abortions to be heinous in and of itself - and they had a moral argument. But that moral argument is undermined by the shooting of a doctor - in a church, of all places."

The moral argument is unconnected to the murder. Two wrongs do not make a right. The moral argument stands and the justified condemnation of Tiller's murder does not negate the moral argument against abortion.

35 posted on 06/02/2009 8:30:26 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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Thus by use of violence, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.

She is right that this killer should go to prison for life with no possibility of parole (or get the death penalty), but she's wrong on this one point. The murderer set out to achieve that which he could not achieve over the undemocratic and unconstitutional decree of the Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade and related cases. This murder is still wrong, unforgivably evil, and an inappropriate tactic for achieving political objectives, but democracy has nothing to do with our current abortion situation.

37 posted on 06/02/2009 8:31:54 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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They’re more concerned about what happens to this guy than the terrorists who kill hundreds held at Guantanamo.

Speaks volumes about their character, or more appropriately, their lack of it.


38 posted on 06/02/2009 8:32:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (http://ccwsaveslives.blogspot.com/)
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Sure, but a little perspective here:
How many people were murdered in America between 12 midnight Saturday and 12 midnight Sunday?
Ever life is precious, not just Tillers. Every murder saddens me.
41 posted on 06/02/2009 8:36:01 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Bull shiite.


49 posted on 06/02/2009 8:56:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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