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Missing Jet: 'Fire' Spotted On Atlantic Ocean
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Posted on 06/01/2009 7:11:10 PM PDT by traumer

A commercial pilot has said he saw a "fire" on the Atlantic Ocean close to the route of a missing Air France plane.

The pilot, for TAMAirlines, said he spotted what appeared to be orange marks in the ocean near to where the jet went missing.

More follows...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airbus; airfrance; france; missing; planecrash
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To: ConservativeMind
We tied on posting that same, exact response.

I suppose this means John will have to add a milliseconds field in the future to deal with ties :-)

21 posted on 06/01/2009 7:38:07 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: traumer

bttt


22 posted on 06/01/2009 7:38:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: Cincinna

Air France ping for further info.


23 posted on 06/01/2009 7:38:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I heard that the Airbus is a fine aircraft.

As long as the Italian Tab A fits into the French Slot B.
24 posted on 06/01/2009 7:38:46 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

the names are in the article; I don’t have another link


25 posted on 06/01/2009 7:38:51 PM PDT by traumer
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

The A3xx series is one of the safest lines of trans continental equipment available. I’d still take a Boeing any day. There were some early problems with fly-by-wire avionics but those were put to bed for the most part in the late 90s.

One thing a lot of people don’t know, is that the first Space Shuttle landing (after being dropped from a modified 747) almost was destroyed to faulty alogrythms in the flight control system (fly-by-wire) while a bunch of dignitaries and Prince Charles observed from the grand stand. The pilot’s quick adjustments confused the programming in the FCS and nearly caused it to careen out of control on the salt flat runway.

But, as i said, i’ll take a 7x7 any day over an Airbus. The A340 which is a beautiful aircraft has some serious problems with tail strikes. Typical European engineering, elegant, effecient but flawed.


26 posted on 06/01/2009 7:38:59 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: Myrddin

Yes, exactly like Boeing’s 777.

This is indeed the very first A330 incident in commercial service. The only other loss was the quite famous one during flight tests.


27 posted on 06/01/2009 7:39:08 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ConservativeMind

So if you lose electrical power, you’re sort of sol?


28 posted on 06/01/2009 7:39:19 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Thrownatbirth

That sounds kinky.


29 posted on 06/01/2009 7:39:27 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: stboz

My thoughts exactly.


30 posted on 06/01/2009 7:39:47 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Cincinna; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Ping!
31 posted on 06/01/2009 7:40:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Southack

The radio this morning said 2 Syrians...did you hear that?


32 posted on 06/01/2009 7:41:11 PM PDT by roses of sharon (We must get a grip on what we can, and hold on. Hold on with energy, imagination, and ferocity)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Fly by wire is not less safe. It is usually quad redundant, shielded wires delivering electrical impulses to command hydraulic servoactuators. Very safe with good inspection schedules.


33 posted on 06/01/2009 7:42:14 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: roses of sharon

which radio?


34 posted on 06/01/2009 7:42:44 PM PDT by traumer
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To: roses of sharon

The Brazilian Authorities have shared this list:

2 American
1 Argentinian
1 Austrian
1 Belgian
58 Brazilian
5 British
1 Canadian
9 Chinese
1 Croatian
1 Danish
1 Dutch
1 Estonian
1 Filipino
61 French
1 Gambian
26 German
4 Hungarian
3 Irish
1 Icelandic
9 Italian
5 Lebanese
2 Moroccan
3 Norwegians
2 Polish
1 Romanian
1 Russian
3 Slovakian
1 South African
2 Spanish
1 Swedish
6 Swiss
1 Turkish

More info on the original thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2262007/posts?q=1&;page=1#1


35 posted on 06/01/2009 7:46:05 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: traumer

Had to be ABC, here in Michigan we had GM special reports on WJR all day.


36 posted on 06/01/2009 7:47:27 PM PDT by roses of sharon (We must get a grip on what we can, and hold on. Hold on with energy, imagination, and ferocity)
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To: 2111USMC

no Amish.


37 posted on 06/01/2009 7:48:36 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

So if you lose electrical power, you’re sort of sol?

Not always.

I have no experience with heavy jets. I work fighters.

If you lose electrical power in a single engine fighter, you have backup electrical power from an Emergency Power Unit. When that fails, you still have back up flight control batteries. And you have a fourth source of power, the aircraft battery.

Heavy aircraft have these backups, but also have 2 or 3 or 4 turbofans to generate electricity. They also have the room to carry an APU or Alternate Power Unit to generate electricity to power the flight control surfaces.

Many back ups.


38 posted on 06/01/2009 7:49:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2111USMC
The report I heard was early on, and they named 4 or 5 nationalities....but I distinctly remember 2 Syrians because of terrorism of course. Thanks for the list!
39 posted on 06/01/2009 7:51:24 PM PDT by roses of sharon (We must get a grip on what we can, and hold on. Hold on with energy, imagination, and ferocity)
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To: rahbert

Lebanese, Turkish, and Moroccan passengers on the list. Did any of them have SJS?


40 posted on 06/01/2009 7:53:05 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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