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‘Assault rifles’ found in Austin dumpster, or media bias?
Austin Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 27 May, 2009 | Howard Nemerov

Posted on 05/28/2009 4:29:45 AM PDT by marktwain

KVUE reported that on Tuesday, police found “assorted parts from assault rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition” in a dumpster in north Austin.

However, the Statesman reported that police found “eight upper receivers for an AR-15 rifle” and “about 2,000 rifle rounds.” KXAN reported that while “AR-15 receivers” were found, there were no parts with serial numbers.

The straight scoop

Mark Wilson, Acting Resident Agent in charge of the Austin branch of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) said they found 8 upper receivers with barrels for AR-15 semi-automatic rifles. When an AR-15 is fired by pulling the trigger, a new round of ammunition is fed into the upper receiver, and on the next trigger pull the bullet is fired out through the barrel. Therefore, upper receivers are a passive component group, which is why the ATF does not classify them as firearm.

However, the firing and feed mechanisms are part of the lower receiver. John Kochan of KR Training–which provides advanced firearms training for civilians and police–says the lower receiver “contains the fire control group (trigger, hammer, etc.) and also has the grip, and rear stock, and recoil spring.” This contains the active components which the ATF classifies as a firearm.

Wilson said that since these recovered parts have no serial numbers, piecing together the story behind their origin and destination will be a challenge. However, it is possible that somebody could buy upper receivers in order to help somebody who has lower receivers build a complete firearm. These currently retail for $800-2,000, depending on manufacturer and components.

Wilson said the ATF also recovered about 1600 rounds of ammunition capable of being fired by an AR-15, plus about 1000 rounds of miscellaneous pistol ammunition. The ammunition’s total retail value is around $900-1,000 and Wilson values the AR-15 parts at $4,000.

Since true military assault weapons–firearms that fire multiple rounds for one trigger pull–have been severely restricted on the civilian market since 1934, reporting these gun parts as “parts of assault rifles” shows KVUE’s ignorance and/or bias.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: assault; banglist; dumpster; tx
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To: marktwain

“Scary black guns” = “Assault Rifles”


21 posted on 05/28/2009 5:49:46 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Could be that some Texan got disgusted with the takedown power of .223 and upgraded his collection to AR50’s. LOL!


22 posted on 05/28/2009 6:16:00 AM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
It does not appear that any laws are broken unless someone reported this stuff stolen.

I'd bet you're not supposed to throw live ammo into the garbage can.

23 posted on 05/28/2009 6:18:05 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: marktwain

Man, I need to take up dumpster diving.


24 posted on 05/28/2009 6:19:57 AM PDT by Sloth (The Second Amendment is the ultimate "term limit.")
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To: marktwain

Not knocking you for the post in any way, but why is this even a story, and why is the ATF involved?


25 posted on 05/28/2009 6:21:25 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: jiggyboy
"I'd bet you're not supposed to throw live ammo into the garbage can."

Other than the sheer stupidity of throwing away something of value, why is it illegal? I'm no expert so someone step in if I'm wrong here, but you can't just take a round, hit the end of it with a rock and presto it goes off. Unless extreme force is used to hit the primer, the round will not go off so it's safe as far as I understand.
26 posted on 05/28/2009 6:36:02 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Condor51
You can buy those anywhere. It's the 'Lower' that's 'gold'.

Have you tried buying any lately? They are worth 3 or 4 times what a lower is worth. And the demand is high because a lot of folks buy cheap lowers and then need an upper.
27 posted on 05/28/2009 6:44:29 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Travis T. OJustice

why is this even a story, and why is the ATF involved?


Indeed. They have zero regulatory authority over non-firearm gun parts like barrels and such (which are legal for anyone to make, buy and sell in any manner without government involvement).

Same for ammo.


28 posted on 05/28/2009 6:52:55 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Typical "Rightwing Extremist")
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To: TalonDJ
Have you tried buying any lately?
No. I have no need for an AR-15 Upper or Lower receiver.

And my point was that Upper Receivers are not a BATF controlled item like lower receivers and are sold everywhere, so this story is a non story. Except that for some reason someone threw them away.

I wouldn't buy an AR-15 anyway. Don't like the tiny bullet. If I had the 'extra' funds, I'd buy an AR-10 (.308).

29 posted on 05/28/2009 6:58:04 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51
Don't like the tiny bullet

Then you need one of these

30 posted on 05/28/2009 8:26:57 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: KoRn
-- That would be like finding a treasure! --

The stash was probably a honey pot set by the ATF in the first place.

31 posted on 05/28/2009 8:29:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MeekOneGOP; ValerieTexas; txhurl; basil; SwinneySwitch; austinaero; lormand; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ..

Some of you may be interested in this too.


32 posted on 05/28/2009 8:37:38 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It took almost 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for "The Failure" BO to tear it down.)
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To: KoRn

Me too!


33 posted on 05/28/2009 9:11:54 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: KoRn

A guy I know found an AR dismantled in the toy box at a yard sale. $5.


34 posted on 05/28/2009 12:48:39 PM PDT by gundog
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