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National Sales Tax Gets Fresh Look; Rahm Emanuel's brother advises 10% VAT...
Washington Post ^ | 5/27/2009 | Lori Montgomery

Posted on 05/27/2009 5:38:44 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss

With budget deficits soaring and President Obama pushing a trillion-dollar-plus expansion of health coverage, some Washington policymakers are taking a fresh look at a money-making idea long considered politically taboo: a national sales tax.

Common around the world, including in Europe, such a tax -- called a value-added tax, or VAT -- has not been seriously considered in the United States. But advocates say few other options can generate the kind of money the nation will need to avert fiscal calamity.

At a White House conference earlier this year on the government's budget problems, a roomful of tax experts pleaded with Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner to consider a VAT. A recent flurry of books and papers on the subject is attracting genuine, if furtive, interest in Congress. And last month, after wrestling with the White House over the massive deficits projected under Obama's policies, the chairman of the Senate Budget Committee declared that a VAT should be part of the debate.

"There is a growing awareness of the need for fundamental tax reform," Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) said in an interview. "I think a VAT and a high-end income tax have got to be on the table."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: added; bigteapartyjuly4; donttreadonme; fairtax; lping; nationalsalestax; obama; rahm; salestax; tax; taxes; taxincreases; teapartytime; time2partyagain; value; vat
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To: mad_as_he$$
One guy who is in the business of helping them leave estimates that $1 billion per day is leaving.

Where are they going? I might want to be there, too.

121 posted on 05/27/2009 6:56:26 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: demoskowitz

I wondered when this Obamanation of an idea was going to surface. Odds of the Obamanistas pushing thru a VAT in “this time of crisis?” >> 100%


122 posted on 05/27/2009 6:57:06 AM PDT by citizen (Fascism: All persons, capital & activities exist to support the will & best interests of the State.)
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To: cbkaty

Forget the tar.
Forget the feathers.
Forget the rope.

BASEBALL BATS!..........................


123 posted on 05/27/2009 6:57:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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To: wombtotomb

“Drop the income tax, cut spending, and put a national sales tax of 10%, and thats IT for taxes, I am all for it. Add it to the already levied taxes and fees we currently pay, and I think it may be the catylist to a revolt. Too many of the rich will leave, and I don’t blame them. Soyent green should be re released in theaters nationwide.......”

This national sales tax HAS and always will BE a SCAM. It’s never going to be implemented as you suggest. I have always been against this and for a flat tax.

So now all the folks who kept this alive like Hucklebee will now watch their dream be implemented by the national socialists.

The end of freedom is near.


124 posted on 05/27/2009 6:57:31 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: demoskowitz

“I think a VAT and a high-end income tax have got to be on the table.”

For all of those who said that the FairTax would only result in both a sales tax and an income tax, well you now have it. To bad, the FairTax legislation would have outlawed it.

Enjoy.


125 posted on 05/27/2009 6:58:14 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: demoskowitz

Why don’t they just propose slavery? They might as well because we all are going to be living on the street.

These people must go ASAP.


126 posted on 05/27/2009 6:58:50 AM PDT by dforest
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To: demoskowitz

Rahm’s brother says yes, but BOTH my mother AND my sister say no.

That’s two to one. We win.


127 posted on 05/27/2009 6:59:15 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: livius

With a VAT, they don’t need to keep the income tax.


128 posted on 05/27/2009 6:59:18 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: RoadTest
Rahm Emanuel’s brother advises 10% VAT

I just talked to both of my brothers and my sister and they said, "NO!" So that settles that, Rahm. You lost.

129 posted on 05/27/2009 6:59:23 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

AH! I just posted the same thing. Great minds...


130 posted on 05/27/2009 7:00:12 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: demoskowitz

“a national sales tax.

Common around the world, including in Europe, such a tax — called a value-added tax, or VAT —”

Lori,

Get your apples away from my oranges.

Sincerely,

CSM


131 posted on 05/27/2009 7:01:19 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: demoskowitz
The level of mismanagement is absolutely stunning.

Our own government (dems and pubs alike) will be responsible for the destruction of our nation.

National suicide.

It is treasonous to allow the Chinese government to dictate policy in America via monetary arm twisting, Saudi’s to dictate our energy policy.

We as American citizens need to take this ol bull by the horns. The republican and democrat parties are subservient to the almighty dollar.......that's the crime.

America needs a nationalist party to challenge the corruption in government and help restore America to her greatness.

We are dying as a nation.

132 posted on 05/27/2009 7:02:28 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Leisler
All the rich want is a heads up so that they can dump their assets being destroyed in value

That would be Michael Eisner, big Clinton contributor, former head of Disney, and who executed 200 million of options in the last week of 92 to take a huge capital gain that year instead of in 93 when the rate went up retroactively to Jan 93 passed by the democrats and Clinton.

133 posted on 05/27/2009 7:04:36 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Always Right

The fairtaxers I know are solidly behind the repeal of the income tax as a prerequisite of the Fairtax being put in place.


134 posted on 05/27/2009 7:05:12 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: dirtboy
ACORN can only cheat so much.

Just wait until the 2010 census figures kick in. We ain't seen nothin' yet!

135 posted on 05/27/2009 7:05:22 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: Obadiah; wardaddy
today more Americans want a cold bowl of gruel handed to them by the government than to have to go out and cook a fat steak for themselves

I'm going to agreee with that and that attitude is infecting all demographic groups.

136 posted on 05/27/2009 7:06:46 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Right Wing Assault

Carribean, Costa Rica, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, Singapore, longterm cruise ships.


137 posted on 05/27/2009 7:08:37 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: Jim from C-Town

Which Republicans are pushing this flat tax? This has not shown on my radar and I’m looking for more information.


138 posted on 05/27/2009 7:10:21 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: khnyny
As a matter of fact, people in Congress (and Rahm's brother, apparently) are cognizant of the fact that there is a growing underground economy where people don't pay income taxes.

IMO, the underground economy is already massive...has been for years. Now that the statute of limitations has run out I can admit that I also was part of that "cash and barter only" economy for about six years of my working life, with no gov't assistance.

139 posted on 05/27/2009 7:13:09 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: SumProVita
Barter system anyone???

Back in the late 80's there were a couple set up by and for professional services. I knew a doctor who belonged to one. I wonder if they're still around.

140 posted on 05/27/2009 7:16:36 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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