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Sweating bullets
Corpus Christi Caller-Times ^ | May 24, 2009 | Denise Malan

Posted on 05/26/2009 9:27:18 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

Family worries about neighbors’ target shooting

LIVE OAK(County) — Eight-year-old Mikayla Molohon likes playing on her swing set in the breezy Lake Meadows Subdivision near the banks of the Nueces River.

Until the shooting starts.

Then her grandparents, Sparkey and Jan Osborn, call “Mika” inside to watch television or play with her toys. The Osborns’ two Doberman pinschers become anxious, and Sparkey Osborn’s occasional migraines pound worse with the shooting.

Mika and her sister, Colleen, 13, aren’t allowed in the front yard at all because the Osborns are never sure when the guns might go off.

Two of their neighbors, the Herradas across the street and the Valentines down the road, have dirt berms on their property and regularly practice shooting their guns, as often as once a week during competition training, Jan Osborn said. The Osborns worry that a ricochet or bad shot could hit their home.

“I usually stay back here by myself and I don’t get into my neighbor’s business,” Sparkey Osborn said recently on his back porch overlooking the river. “But I don’t want to put my family in danger.”

After several years of worrying, and spurred by the story of a 7-year-old Hays County boy who died from a stray bullet, the Osborns have sued both neighbors and are asking for stricter gun laws in Live Oak County to bar shooting in residential areas.

Herman Herrada and John Valentine say in court filings they have never missed their berms and the dirt piles are free from any material that could cause a ricochet. They say their lines of fire extend over open fields — away from the Osborn residence — and that the suit amounts to harassment.

The Osborns are asking for a permanent injunction to stop both men from firing on their property. The argument hinges on the subdivision’s deed restrictions, which bar nuisance activities.

The Osborns lost a request for a temporary injunction in November and a hearing is set for June 5 on the request for permanent injunction. Neighbors have lined up on each side of the dispute, with several expected to testify that Valentine and Herrada are safe shooters, and another handful filing statements with the court that shooting bothers them but they wish to remain anonymous to keep a harmonious relationship.

Both the Osborns say they are not against guns but what they call irresponsible gun use. Jan Osborn is a member of the National Rifle Association, and Sparkey Osborn has used a gun to defend his home. This is not a constitutional issue to them.

“What you can do when you have no neighbors is different from what you can do when you live in a community,” Jan Osborn said.

The beginning

The Osborns moved from San Antonio to Port Aransas in 1988 to escape another kind of threat. Sparkey Osborn had shot an intruder in their home, and the reputed gang member survived and vowed revenge. Osborn said he lived in fear of a drive-by, and the incident left him with post-traumatic stress disorder.

Then in late 2002 the couple moved from Port Aransas to Live Oak County to be nearer their daughter and grandchildren. Herrada and Valentine already lived in the subdivision and had constructed their shooting berms in 1988 and 1996, respectively, according to the suit.

“When we first moved there, we didn’t realize the dirt pile across the street from us was a shooting berm,” Jan Osborn said. “We just thought it was a pile of dirt to use for filling in holes.”

Valentine and Herrada practice shooting at the berms at competition distances of 7, 15 and 25 yards. Valentine is a certified instructor in the use of explosives and firearms at Del Mar College, Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi and the Corpus Christi Police Academy. Herrada is a retired Department of Corrections officer who served 23 years in the Air Force.

Sparkey Osborn, a former construction worker who suffers from chronic back pain and migraine headaches, likes to relax on his back patio in one of the few comfortable chairs he can find. But the shooting makes him anxious and forces him inside.

“It’s turned into worse than waiting for a drive-by,” Osborn said, turning to point to his front window. “The ricochet could come right in the window there where my grandchildren watch TV.”

The Osborns say they were determined to be good neighbors. They put up with the shooting for years. Then a bullet from a third neighbor, who was shooting at a tree stump, ended up in the trailer next door to the Osborns, nearly in the line of fire of their grandchildren’s swing set.

Though that neighbor agreed to stop shooting and has since moved, the stray bullet heightened the Osborns’ anxiety.

So when the couple heard in April 2007 that a 7-year-old boy from Hays County was killed by a stray bullet while playing on his trampoline, they had an epiphany.

“I thought, ‘It’s time for this to stop,’ ” Sparkey Osborn said.

The law

The Osborns called the Live Oak County Sheriff’s Office to see what could be done about the shooting. Though at least two deputies have come out, the couple are frustrated that no citations have been given.

Sheriff Larry Busby is expected to testify about Valentine’s safety record, according to court filings.

Busby said Thursday he inspected both berms in Lake Meadows Subdivision. He knows Valentine from competition shooting but has not used the berm, Busby said.

“It seems to be safe to me,” Busby said. “I wouldn’t have any problem shooting on it. I don’t worry about it being a risk to anyone.”

The Osborns have written U.S. Rep. Ruben Hinojosa and Sen. John Cornyn to ask for the Texas Rangers to step in and investigate. A spokesman for Hinojosa said staff are looking into the request but aren’t ready to comment, and Cornyn’s office had not received the letter as of last week.

Busby said he would have no problem with an outside investigation.

“If there would have been any kind of risk, we’d certainly have done something about it,” he said. “If he wants to call an outside agency to come in and check it, they can call. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tell them they have more important things to do.”

State law allows counties to regulate shooting on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and located in a subdivision in unincorporated areas of the county. Lots in Lake Meadows are around 1 acre or less.

After the boy was shot on his trampoline in Hays County, that commissioners court considered a law that would ban shooting on lots less than two acres. It failed by a 3-2 vote, but nearby Bastrop County passed a similar proposal for lots smaller than 5 acres.

The man who shot the boy told investigators he was target shooting when he hit the boy in a yard about a third of a mile away, according to the “Austin American Statesman.” He pleaded guilty Wednesday to manslaughter and was sentenced to eight years in prison.

Live Oak County Commissioner Jim Bassett said Thursday the Osborns had discussed a possible law with him, though the issue hasn’t been formally presented to the court. He declined to comment further because of the lawsuit.

The case

Herrada answered his door for a reporter but declined to comment. Valentine refused to come to the door and hung up on a reporter. Both men’s attorney, Michael Sartori of George West, said he did not want to comment beyond court filings.

In their court filings, Herrada and Valentine say they shoot in the direction of open fields and that their berms are large enough for recreational shooting. Their filings say Valentine’s berm is 24 feet wide, 18 feet thick and 7½ feet high and Herrada’s berm is 21 feet wide, 9 feet thick and 7 feet high. The Osborns dispute those numbers.

Valentine said he shoots a 1911 .45 automatic and a Smith & Wesson 357/38 model 66. Herrada said he has shot three pistols and a Remington 12-gauge shotgun.

The Osborns’ suit claims Valentine also occasionally fires a cannon, an assertion he denies in court papers.

The suit claims Valentine and Herrada cause a nuisance and violate the subdivision’s deed restrictions, which state “no noxious or offensive activity” or anything “which may be or may become an annoyance or nuisance to the neighborhood” are allowed in the subdivision. The covenant was signed in 1979.

At least five neighbors have signed statements saying they also want the shooting to stop, though many requested their names not be used. David and Marla Scott, who own 90 acres surrounding the subdivision, plan to testify at the injunction hearing.

David Scott said their home is within 90 degrees of each shooting berm, and within 100 yards of Valentine’s berm. He also said his olive orchards are directly downrange from the berm.

“If I’m working, trying to get trees pruned and stuff, and he starts popping off rounds, I’m not stupid,” Scott said. “I’m not going to be directly downrange.”

He also said friends and family always go inside or leave when they hear shooting start, and he makes his grandchildren come inside. Scott, who moved near the subdivision in 2002, said he has called the sheriff’s office twice and visited with the district attorney and a private attorney, only to be told there’s nothing he could do.

“Even though what they’re doing may not be against the law, it’s not responsible for your neighbors,” Scott said.

The Osborns’ son Christopher Osborn, a firefighter for a contractor in Iraq, also signed a statement saying that the shooting worries him because his 12-year-old daughter visits his parents.

“I spend less than 30 days a year out of a war zone and need the peace and quiet of my home to relax and recuperate before having to return to my job in Iraq,” Christopher Osborn wrote.

On the Herrada and Valentine side, two neighbors are expected to testify whether they feel the noise levels are a nuisance. Their attorney argues the claims are barred by a limitations clause, and that the subdivision deed restrictions allow recreational shooting.

Even if the Osborns win a permanent injunction at the June 5 hearing, Jan Osborn said the couple still want a new law.

“I really feel we’ve been let down by the sheriff’s office,” she said. “I feel we’ve been let down by the county, and I feel we’ve been let down by the state.”


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To: org.whodat

When did they “fire a gun onto another’s property”?


101 posted on 05/26/2009 10:30:16 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (0bommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: Rocky Mountain High
Dissent all you want, just don't pretend to be on the side of individual freedom, Rights, or responsibilities.

Do try to argue like an adult instead of a two year old though.

102 posted on 05/26/2009 10:30:47 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: luvbach1
A stray shot with a high enough trajectory could sail over this wall and into the neighbor's house or yard. It's possible.

Only if the "neighbor" is a mile or so away.

You need to brush up on your ballistics.

103 posted on 05/26/2009 10:33:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Sparkey Osborn, a former construction worker who suffers from chronic back pain and migraine headaches, likes to relax on his back patio in one of the few comfortable chairs he can find. But the shooting makes him anxious and forces him inside.

Well, get psychological treatment or stop being a wuss. Why are his issues his neighbors' problem? Not that I'm advocating being bad neighbors, but he shouldn't shift responsibility for his issues to them. That's HIM being a good neighbor.

104 posted on 05/26/2009 10:34:08 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: luvbach1
A stray shot with a high enough trajectory could sail over this wall and into the neighbor's house or yard. It's possible. Neighbors should not be placed at any risk from the shooting, however slight.

Right -- if they just have a berm and haven't covered the "blue skip gap", they are still endangering folks if a round goes over the berm (shooter mentioned in the article serving 8 years for manslaughter for killing a kid on a trampoline 1/3 mile downrange)

Design Criteria for Shooting Ranges

Baffles, Berms and Backstops

I'm a gun and 2nd amendment lover but I wouldn't want to live next to a 1 acre outdoor gun range, or downrange from a poorly constructed one

105 posted on 05/26/2009 10:35:14 AM PDT by SiGeek
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To: Rocky Mountain High
It’s like cigarettes - why should I have to move b/c some doofus lights up next to me and I have to smell his death cloud?

Uh, because the "doofus" was there before you?

106 posted on 05/26/2009 10:35:26 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Beagle8U
Agree with your post #92, almost nobody is shot by target shooters. Operative word: almost.
107 posted on 05/26/2009 10:36:27 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: luvbach1
Just biting off chickens’ heads

Actually, it was a bat.

108 posted on 05/26/2009 10:37:30 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SiGeek
In this case, there are clear fields downrange beyond the berms.

Let's argue apples to apples and leave the "what if's" to the DUmmies.

109 posted on 05/26/2009 10:38:14 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Dead Corpse

Simple & cool solution: http://www.advancedarmament.com


110 posted on 05/26/2009 10:38:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: luvbach1
Almost no one is killed by chainsaws. Operative word: almost.

Better go after anyone with a chainsaw next. Especially if they are running it in your subdivision.

111 posted on 05/26/2009 10:39:27 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Noise doesn’t do any damage? Really? I guess I’ll have to let those Iraq war vets with the blown-out eardrums of that.

Wow, you really are amazingly stupid.

I'll second that!

112 posted on 05/26/2009 10:39:50 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SwinneySwitch
“When we first moved there, we didn’t realize the dirt pile across the street from us was a shooting berm,”

Caveat emptor! Nuff said.

Sort of like people moving next to an airport; then complaining about the noise!

113 posted on 05/26/2009 10:40:10 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: ctdonath2

Illegal here in the People’s Republik of Minnesota. But yeah, it would be nice.


114 posted on 05/26/2009 10:40:25 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: SiGeek; luvbach1

I suppose cars should be banned from the neighborhood as well, no?


115 posted on 05/26/2009 10:40:40 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The real issue is ensuring that the shooter has taken adequate steps to prevent my property becoming his impact area (or his property becoming my impact area) before somebody gets killed.

I think everyone would agree that it's incumbent on the shooter – or what ever they happen to be doing – to assured that he (or she) isn't endangering others

Parenthetically, I have heard of places where they want to change the distance you have to be from 300' to 500' from neighboring properties to restrict how many people can practice in and area, simply because they don't like the noise.

In that case, it's not really an issue of safety so much as that people would like to control what you do with your property.

Part of the issue is that if and when the government steps in, that won't be that last that will be heard on the subject.

Once people feel the intoxicating drug of controlling others, they never know when to stop, 500' becomes 1000', 1000' becomes 2,000, etc.

116 posted on 05/26/2009 10:40:42 AM PDT by HammerT (Buy them so they CAN'T BAN them!!!)
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To: ctdonath2
Only if the "neighbor" is a mile or so away. You need to brush up on your ballistics.

I deliberately didn't state distance so my statement is correct as it stands.

117 posted on 05/26/2009 10:40:55 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: luvbach1
Your chicken little standards would outlaw almost all hunting and shooting. Do you understand that?

A 22 rimfire will travel about 2 miles and a deer rifle 5 + miles.

118 posted on 05/26/2009 10:41:11 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: HammerT
tomorrow it’ll be Incandescent light bulbs...

Did you miss that one? They're gone in 2012.

119 posted on 05/26/2009 10:41:53 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Rocky Mountain High
neighbours

Now there's the King's English for ya.

120 posted on 05/26/2009 10:41:58 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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