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Can’t drink milk? You’re “normal”! (Evolutionary notions re: lactose intolerance overturned)
CMI ^ | May 26, 2009 | David Catchpoole, Ph.D.

Posted on 05/26/2009 9:03:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

For many, the mere mention of milk will be enough to invoke memories of nausea, bloating, cramps, diarrhea, and perhaps in some cases, jibes and taunts about “wind” and bad breath. Some will have undergone medical tests that diagnosed the cause as “ Lactose intolerance ”.

Lacking the enzyme lactase, which breaks down the milk sugar lactose (see box), they are unable to digest milk, whereas lactose-tolerant people can. Others, though, might still be unaware that they are “deficient” in lactase, not realizing that drinking milk causes their feelings of nausea, etc.[1]

For many years, lactose intolerance was regarded as abnormal, and was used by many as evidence of human evolution. As a measure of evolutionary “advancement”, milk-drinking seemed to fit the stereotype perfectly. Pale-skinnned northern Europeans usually retained full intestinal lactase activity into adulthood, in stark contrast to the world’s darker-skinned peoples who are only able to digest milk as infants or young children. Well, that’s the way the story went.

However, “lactose deficiency” in adults is not in fact abnormal, but the norm! Research has shown that...

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1 posted on 05/26/2009 9:03:41 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 05/26/2009 9:04:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
I have suffered with this my whole life.

As a baby, my mother reported that I would drink my bottle and then later they would pick me up and I would vomit up my last feeding and then they would give me a fresh bottle. One day I dropped my "glass" bottle on the floor and it broke, from then on until all bottles were broken, I proceeded to drop all of them. She then cup trained me, and I would drink everything out of a cup except milk.

As a child, I was made to drink milk at my Aunt's house. I always got car sick on the way home.

As an adult, I once a year go to a conference where banquet meals are served that I have no control of. I have found myself up all night vomiting.

Since there is dairy in almost everything, I have found a strategy that works. I carry raw carrots everywhere and munch on them when I get that feeling. 95% of the time, it stops my attack.

I have hated milk since I was a child, but it was often forced on me, because after all it was good for me. NO IT WASN'T. Just thinking about it as I write this causes the bile to rise in my throat.

3 posted on 05/26/2009 9:12:40 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I milk! It's great for indigestion, very soothing. If I've got a flu or anything, and can't stomach any other food, milk works. Nothing better...well, chocolate milk is better. :)
4 posted on 05/26/2009 9:13:09 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (It's all resistance...and it's all good.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Of course that should be I “love” milk.

Had a great aunt who hated the stuff. It gave her hives. In those days they thought milk baths were great for hives, so she looked pretty bad most of the time.


5 posted on 05/26/2009 9:14:51 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (It's all resistance...and it's all good.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I have a slight intolerance to lactose. However I love milk and all milk-based products. Just can't get enough of them. I just deal with the {ahem} bowel issues that come as a result.
6 posted on 05/26/2009 9:15:49 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the frequently disappointed but ever optimistic Mets fan.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Wow ... and such a credible source (eye roll). isn’t this the same place that put the Flintstones cartoons in the documentary category?


7 posted on 05/26/2009 9:16:22 AM PDT by fortunate sun (Tell me what books you want to ban and I'll tell you what type of politics you hold.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Many of the traits that separate Humans from Chimps are traits that are normal to infant chimps but are retained to and through adulthood in humans. Look at a picture of a baby chimp, and note the human looking shape of the head, the erect posture.

In the 1930s there was a movie that had an excentric millionaire seeking eternal life. The missionaire was modeled on JP Getty, complete with a mistress modeled on his mistress.

The scientist engaged to seek eternal life found documents recording an English lord who had not died, though he was over 300 years old. Said English lord had fathered a child when he was 95. Though now a movie would use DNA manipulation, that old movie used some nonsense about carp guts as a dietary key.

So the troika traveled to England to visit the old guy, and found him happily living in the basement of his drafty (draughty, if you please) castle....

...as an adult chimpanzee.


8 posted on 05/26/2009 9:16:28 AM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Can I get on disability? I’m lactose persistent!


9 posted on 05/26/2009 9:20:31 AM PDT by HoustonTech
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Hives is an allergy. She’s lucky it didn’t kill her.

For lactose intolerance, though, lactaid tablets work some by supplying the enzyme your body is lacking.


10 posted on 05/26/2009 9:21:11 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: w1andsodidwe
I used to drink gallons of milk every week and was quite sick several times a year.

My Doctor told me to never drink milk. He said by the time you are 6-8 years old you have had all that garbage you can stand.

I seldom get sick like I used to. I still use it for some cooking but don't drink the crap.

11 posted on 05/26/2009 9:22:26 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: w1andsodidwe

Lactaide!!!


12 posted on 05/26/2009 9:26:14 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: GodGunsGuts

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13 posted on 05/26/2009 9:28:53 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Dear GOD help us save your babies from the Abortionist.)
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To: w1andsodidwe
Sounds like my own dairy story of training my parents not to give me milk.

However, I am not lactose intolerant, I just hate the taste of most dairy products, most especially milk and cheese.

Maybe it is genetic in some way as my kids are all the same.

In fact, the only dairy products any of us eat are ice cream and butter. And vanilla is the least favorite flavor of ice cream.

14 posted on 05/26/2009 9:29:42 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: dangerdoc
Lactaide!!!

Never really worked for me, because you have to anticipate that you are going to have milk before hand. That is hard to do and believe the carrots work better than that ever did.

15 posted on 05/26/2009 9:30:11 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Adam and Eve, being genetically perfect, would not have had the milk-drinking mutation, therefore, we can presume, did not drink milk.”

Why do I have a feeling that the creationists that write this stuff don’t have real degrees in science? I mean, it kind of reminds you of the civilians that buy a military jumpsuit and hang around in bars outside of the airbase to see what they can pickup. Maybe some do. I’d just like to see some academic bona fides after reading some of this stuff. It’s funny.

Reading the article, and enduring the obligatory swerve into “creationist philosophy”, I was left with the conclusion that whatever lactase I still have is probably a bad thing. I mean, if there is some way to become lactose intolerant then I could become more “genetically perfect”. Really! That’s what the article is saying.

Now my son is lactose intolerant (lucky kid apparently). Does anyone know if there’s a way to remove my lactase enzyme so I can get better (thus becoming intolerant as well)?


16 posted on 05/26/2009 9:31:22 AM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
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To: fortunate sun

Speaking as a creationist, it is a real bummer knowing that your sense of humor will never evolve.


17 posted on 05/26/2009 9:31:29 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Sounds like your aunt had a true allergy to milk, as do I. Hives aren’t a symptom of lactose intolerance, they are an allergy symptom.


18 posted on 05/26/2009 9:34:34 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: GodGunsGuts
For many years, lactose intolerance was regarded as abnormal

Really? I would consider lactose intolerance quite normal in populations that have not had long-term milk ingestion over generations......and I would consider lactose tolerance normal only in populations that have seen a lot of non-human-breat-milk past weaning. Seems it would be beneficial to be able to drink milk and any mutations altering the controlling genes as such would be beneficial and inheritable. That makes "the norm" in the past to be lactose intolerant....but the norm in the future to be lactose tolerant.....unless milk is no longer widely available in the future.

However, “lactose deficiency” in adults is not in fact abnormal, but the norm! Research has shown that the gene for lactase normally switches off as children are weaned. And a genetic mutation that results in lactase production not being switched off accounts for the ability of certain people to drink milk into adulthood.

blink blink....read that last part again....."A GENETIC MUTATION" that results in certain people being able to drink milk into adulthood. Lemme guess....this genetic mutation is inheritable as it is part of the parent's genome? This genetic mutation would be nutritionally beneficial, would it not? This genetic mutation is not already a part of the "human genome" to be swiched on-off raandomly or as needed.....it's an actual mutation in the DNA that is beneficial and inheritable?

Hmmmmmm.....now where have I heard that before? Genetic mutations causing changes in a species that are inheritable and beneficial.

Furthermore, different mutations can stop lactase production from being switched off after weaning. The mutation that confers lactase persistence in northern Europeans is different from the mutation in East Africans who are lactase persistent. Researchers have identified three different mutations (in the same stretch of DNA as the European variant) in various African populations in Tanzania, Kenya and the Sudan.

Meaning???? Do a little thinking here.... OMG....different populations have different mutations IN THE SAME GENETIC AREA that happens to control the same thing in different populations. Stop the presses....the Creation website is showing that genetic mutations that are inheritable and beneficial are permeating through a population.

Sounds like a certain theory....

19 posted on 05/26/2009 9:35:18 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Finally, there is something about me that is normal.


20 posted on 05/26/2009 9:36:36 AM PDT by svcw (The prerequisite for receiving the grace of God ... is knowing you need it.)
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