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Revolution
American Thinker ^ | May 20, 2009 | Herbert E. Meyer

Posted on 05/19/2009 11:44:49 PM PDT by plsjr

During the last 30 years we Americans have been so politically divided that some of us have called this left-right, liberal-conservative split a "culture war" or even a "second Civil War." These descriptions are no longer accurate. The precise, technical word for what is happening in the United States today is revolution.

Because of our country's history, we tend to think of revolutions as military conflicts, and of the revolutionaries as the good guys; the image of Minutemen fighting valiantly against the British forces at Lexington and Concord lies deep within our DNA. But sometimes -- quite often, actually -- revolutions aren't military conflicts, and the good guys are the ones trying to keep the revolution from happening. In January 1933, Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor of Germany by its elected president; he would spend the next two years consolidating his power with the legislative connivance of his political allies in the Reichstag. In October 1917, Lenin and his Bolsheviks took control of Russia from Kerensky and his Social Democrats -- who had overthrown the Czar earlier that year -- entirely through parliamentary maneuvering in Russia's fledgling Duma.

What defines a revolution -- and this is the crucial point to grasp -- is that when it's over a country has changed not merely its leaders and its laws, but its operating system.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: cwii; cwiiping; flushwashington; grassroots; herbertemeyer; herbmeyer; operatingsystems; revolution; socialism; statism
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To: plsjr

......So you’re saying you’ve given up? .....

Yes, they won the election and are working as fast as they can to completely transform the nation to a socialist state. They have the mandate of the urban left and are implementing it as fast as possible.

There is no turning back. They won. They are putting into place the Euro social democrat way as fast as they can move.

No amount of bitching and moaning will solve the problem. The elected Republican legislators, even if they were of a common mind, and they are not, are powerless to stop them.

There is no law that will be enforced. We know that because at least half of the cabinet are tax evaders. There is no evidence the President is legitimate, as in proof of compliance with the Constitution.

Those who have will not. Those who have not think they will but will be deluded. They too will suffer


41 posted on 05/20/2009 12:28:01 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: Noumenon
When your opponents lack the price of admission to civilized debate: a respect for reason, belief in objective truth, and a willingness to admit they're wrong when the facts prove it so - what then? You have defined what is the basis of the democrat party today! There is no objective truth to people who have no moral compass, no fundamental values beyond cannibalizing and looting.

When your opponents' goals are to destroy the very foundation of your culture and your society - and to offer nothing in return but the howling nightmare of a society of cannibals and looters - what then? Again, you are saying 'democrats' without saying it! Abortion on demand has been the democrat's favorite empowerment scheme for decades now, ushering tens of millions of alive unborn children to the trash bins. Now, democrats want embryonic aged humans to be freely cannibalized for tissue sources, as another empowerment scheme. Democrats are pushing 'cap and trade', a prime way to loot the individual over artificially established 'carbon credits'. Cannibalism and looting, the democrat ways to their own empowerment.

When your opponents seize and indoctrinate your children's minds in the politics of victimization and the nobility of human servitude and sacrifice - what then? While the parents are distracted with bread and circuses, the commies take the minds of the children and mold them into territory unfit for rational thought! Our own children are fed a diet of pap at public schools while in our homes they consume televised short attention span garbage, and listen to droning insanity from rap and rock 'stars'. All the while, the parents are distracted with pursuing their own gratifications, at the expense of raising up their children in the way that they should go. Frankly, as the catholic leap into the dead-soul democrat agenda teaches us--with even a graphic example at Notre Dame just the other day--the parents have not a clue the way that their children should go because the parents haven't trod the path! Until they do, it will remain a mystery, perceived as a hindrance to self-gratification.

When the institutions of higher learning are occupied by Marxist multiculturalists who despise the very philosophical foundation upon which the architecture of liberty and human dignity have been constructed and seek to destroy it - what then? Not all have sunken onto the pit of social transaction, moral relativism. But if parents do not choose to place their nearly adult children in the right hands, the end is clear and rushing toward US. Until recently, I would have believe Notre Dame to be a proper values based institution for higher education. But even before the affirmative action figure liar-in-chief was invited to hold services there, the behavior of ND students I've observed had me doubting values have any place at ND any longer.

America has put one foot down in the dung, allowing those of little or no knowledge of what America was to determine whom will rule America. Yes, we've allowed it, we conservatives. How many of our like minded neighbors and relatives actually bother to oppose the bastards by voting every time the polls open, so the lying cannibals and looters do not hold office? Not enough, obviously. Are there actually enough left? 2010 had better be about find out, else we the people will be serfs under a too entrenched federal oligarchy to ever escape it.

42 posted on 05/20/2009 1:26:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: plsjr

marker for later read


43 posted on 05/20/2009 2:33:48 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: plsjr

“The precise, technical word for what is happening in the United States today is revolution.”

....no, what’s happening is a small number of anglo-european/judeo-christian whites are becoming alarmed about what’s happening to the country....there’ll be no revolution...instead there’ll be a race war that will lead to a Balkan style breaking up of the United states.


44 posted on 05/20/2009 2:47:11 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
sometimes -- quite often, actually -- revolutions aren't military conflicts, and the good guys are the ones trying to keep the revolution from happening. In January 1933, Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor of Germany by its elected president; he would spend the next two years consolidating his power with the legislative connivance of his political allies in the Reichstag. In October 1917, Lenin and his Bolsheviks took control of Russia from Kerensky and his Social Democrats -- who had overthrown the Czar earlier that year -- entirely through parliamentary maneuvering in Russia's fledgling Duma.
Thanks neverdem.
45 posted on 05/20/2009 3:20:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Noumenon; Braak
These monsters would rather rule in hell as barbarians sitting on top of a stinking heap of rubble and corpses than leave the rest of us alone to live in peace. I believe that enough patriots still remain to prevent this from happening. But it will come at a terrible cost.

I know, sadly, that is true. I'm willing to let the libs have the Boston to Washington DC Corridor with the Appalachians being the western border (or any super blue states) while we take our part of the country and part in peace as friends, they rule their part and we rule ours as we all see fit. Trouble is, they will never let us alone and keep pushing until we are backed in the corner. Any animal or person, when backed into a corner will be very dangerous. Nothing to lose, everything to gain and all that. Even a rabbit, a chicken or a day old baby chick will fight fiercely when faced with this situation.

The libs keep pushing us. I think Glenn Beck's 9-12 Project is the last peaceful attempt to stop this. I know what it is like to keep getting pushed, I was bullied as a kid, you can only take it so much before striking back. I hate to say this but I have to be honest, if they don't stop pushing us, it will end up where we shoot them and put their heads on pikes or they do the same to us. We have more guns on our side so I think we will win but I don't want to see anyone get hurt or killed over this plus I want to avoid the French style revolution Glenn Beck is warning about where revenge will flow like water in the Ohio River.

Some say that we should have crossed that line that triggers all of this a long time ago. I don't know where this line is but it is invisible. It could be a mile away or 10 miles but we are head towards it at 100 MPH.

I don't like to say this or think this way but it could be our future, both sides have irreconcilable differences and the left will not leave us alone since they are on top politically.
46 posted on 05/20/2009 5:15:23 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: 21twelve

You should post that as a separate thread.


47 posted on 05/20/2009 5:18:39 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: plsjr
Third-party candidates, beware the operating system paradigm.


48 posted on 05/20/2009 5:22:08 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Nowhere Man
I want to avoid the French style revolution Glenn Beck is warning about where revenge will flow like water in the Ohio River.

No one in their right mind wants this. Trouble is, the Left has made it inevitable. You can't reason with someone whose idea of debate is sticking a gun in your face - that's the modus operandi of the Left. They just won't give up the idea that it's their duty to improve your judgement by force. They want to substitute a government gun for your conscience.

That's why we're going to end up killing most of them if we have any expectation of remaining free men and women. We didn't ask for that. They did. They set the ruls of engagement wit htheir take-no-prisoners Alinsk ytactics. Now let's see how they deal with a dose of their own medicine. Unintended consequences and all that. Yes indeed - change is coming. But it's not what they bargained for.

49 posted on 05/20/2009 6:28:28 PM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: cpforlife.org

The real question is, Now what?

Where do we go from here? Or do we go? (as in leave)


50 posted on 05/20/2009 7:11:08 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Rifles can’t stop tanks and laser guided bombs.

If this goes hot, and God I pray it won’t, all the small arms will have little effect in the short term.

And for those who think the Oath Keepers will not fire, remember that organization is probably a false flag. The Fed by now knows who will and won’t fire on citizens, and will act accordingly.


51 posted on 05/20/2009 7:13:43 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Noumenon
No one in their right mind wants this. Trouble is, the Left has made it inevitable. You can't reason with someone whose idea of debate is sticking a gun in your face - that's the modus operandi of the Left. They just won't give up the idea that it's their duty to improve your judgement by force. They want to substitute a government gun for your conscience.

That's why we're going to end up killing most of them if we have any expectation of remaining free men and women. We didn't ask for that. They did. They set the ruls of engagement wit htheir take-no-prisoners Alinsk ytactics. Now let's see how they deal with a dose of their own medicine. Unintended consequences and all that. Yes indeed - change is coming. But it's not what they bargained for.


Ya, I think the bottom line as you pointed out is that they cannot be reasoned with. They, unlike us, are not willing to live and let live with maybe an exception of a few. It just hurts me to see this coming though, I'm a "live and let live" type of guy, but again, it is like my example of a bully that will not give up, sooner or later, the bully's victim will lash out with force. I do feel what they have started, we will finish but there will be a lot of hurt and sorrow in between.
52 posted on 05/20/2009 7:18:59 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: redgolum
Rifles can’t stop tanks and laser guided bombs.

If this goes hot, and God I pray it won’t, all the small arms will have little effect in the short term.

And for those who think the Oath Keepers will not fire, remember that organization is probably a false flag. The Fed by now knows who will and won’t fire on citizens, and will act accordingly.


You might have some but not all the military side with the left, I'm fairly confident that the majority will side with us. Plus you have your State National Guards too. If that is the case, it would probably be the best way if things go hot, the military kicks out the corrupt civilian leaders, establishes an interim government and holds new elections, sort of like rebooting the computer.

Worse case scenario, there is alway "Assymetrical Warfare," like the rebels took on the Soviets in Afghanistan, the Viet Cong in Vietnam, the Finns in the Winter War against the USSR, Lawrence of Arabia and there are plenty of other examples.
53 posted on 05/20/2009 7:25:53 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Nowhere Man
IF it got to that point, we are talking over tens of millions of casualties.

The US has a very fragile internal logistics structure. Just in time stocking means that you can run out very quickly.

And I don't think that the majority of the military will side with us. They will follow orders, because the alternative is summary imprisonment and execution. Look at all the plots against Hitler in the German army. They hated the guy, but didn't take action because the military culture is one where you follow orders. Not mutiny.

Now, if the fight went long, more and more would cross over. But the likelihood of a long civil war in the US is pretty remote. If, say, Montana tried to secede, most of the infrastructure can be wiped out in less than a day by the Air Force.

We need to stop hoping for a civil war or revolution. Besides the millions of deaths, remember that very few such actions have succeeded without the support of another power.

54 posted on 05/20/2009 7:32:12 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 21twelve; ml/nj; firebrand; rmlew; Nachum; Yehuda; ExTexasRedhead; Yaelle; SunkenCiv; ...

I’m aware of that piece by Garet Garrett on the New Deal. Someone posted it here on FR perhaps a month ago. Nonetheless, posting it periodically is important to constantly remind us that what we’re facing today has many similarities to the political situation of the 1930s.


55 posted on 05/20/2009 7:34:49 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: broncobilly; All

It is so important to hold the line

I began holding my own LINE 3 months ago. I went EXEMPT!


56 posted on 05/20/2009 7:45:38 PM PDT by katiekins1 (Obama=DickTater N Chief)
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To: bert
Yes, they won the election and are working as fast as they can to completely transform the nation to a socialist state. They have the mandate of the urban left and are implementing it as fast as possible.

Infiltrate, resist in every way possible. Never give up.

57 posted on 05/20/2009 7:46:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: plsjr; ml/nj; rmlew; dennisw; sheik yerbouty; Liz; romanesq; societygirl; GOP_Lady; Alamo-Girl; ...
Great article by Herbert Meyer (Regrettably, I don't recall reading him before this.)

However, as Mark Levin states on his radio show, what is happening before our very eyes now is more accurately described as a counter-revolution of the Left - a revolution that counters the American Revolution of the late eighteenth century.

58 posted on 05/20/2009 7:50:01 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: 21twelve

INDEED.


59 posted on 05/20/2009 8:05:22 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wintertime

Globalism has long planned to

marry/merge a bastardized version of both Communism and Capitalism under a tyrannical global goverment.


60 posted on 05/20/2009 8:06:24 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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