Posted on 05/17/2009 3:02:08 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable...
(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...
==Oh, come on, folks. The Bible doesn’t even describe the design of the Ark, except to say that it was as broad abeam as it was long, and was just as high. No reasonable boat has those dimensions.
You might want to read your Bible before sounding off about things you obviously know nothing about:
Gen. 6:15. “And this is how you shall make it: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits.
16. “You shall make a window for the ark, and you shall finish it to a cubit from above; and set the door of the ark in its side. You shall make it with lower, second, and third decks.
Also, you might want to give the following site a read:
http://www.worldwideflood.com/ark/hull_form/hull_optimization.htm
And a VERY inspired and motivated builder.
The ark was not designed to be a “boat” in the ordinary sense. It was designed to be an efficient, complicated life raft, and its most important characteristic was that it was impossible to capsize.
Spoken like a true creationist!
And just where was he wrong?
Now that you’ve told us all how we should or should not be reading and interpreting the Bible, perhaps you can tell us why we should listen to you?
Are you a Bible scholar? Your degree in theology and Bible history was from what kind of university?
Not only that, he’s grossly wrong about the basic facts of the Ark’s dimensions. How hard would that have been to look up before posting???
If you have an opinion don't you need one of those too?
LOL!
Nothing like a global flood to getcha movin’.
[So what “motivates” Algore? Besides book sales, I mean.]
One of the things that made the design and execution of the U.S. Naval ship Constitution, and her sister ship Constellation, a significant improvement in ocean-going wooden sailing vessels, is that they addressed the issue called “hogging”.
“Hogging” is the tendency for a relatively long vessel to fold in the middle, as it is carried over a large wave.
The solution to this problem is to build a boat like a bridge, so that it is very strong along its length as well as in other directions. A boat that is defined by triangles, and diagonal bracing.
I didn’t see anything of that in the description that I read, as linked above.
A vessel the size of the Ark could possibly be an efficient enclosed raft, or barge, but it is unlikely to have been capable of surviving well in the open ocean, unless there are matters of its design and building that remain unknown to us.
The available information as presented does not allude to this possibility.
Thanks for the ping!
how much warning did noah have so that he’d be able to round up all these animals and build this massive ship. with modern shipbuilding techniques that’s quite an undertaking. building a ship that big, out of wood, would require an army of men several weeks at best even if they had all the material on hand on short notice.
what about the construction. we’re talking about a boat that’s 450ft long. that’s a huge undertaking that requires lots of men and material.
roman emperors were able to command such feats for their giant pleasure boats (which were almost always in lakes because the ocean would destroy them in minutes). that’s not counting the manpower needed to aquire all of the animals that are supposed to be on the ark as well.
there are some major hurdles that need to be worked out besides whether or not a boat of such dimensions would be sea worthy.
Don’t you think God would see to it that no storm would capsize it, provide material and manpower, you know, providing it WAS His plan and all?
no, not really. if something important like, oh by the way noah, besides directing you to build this boat, i’m going to give you an army of men, an acre or so of freshly milled planks, and a shipwright who can make sense of such a massive vessel, that yes, they would mention it if it happened because it would be a very big intervention by god.
but, since none of that is mentioned in the bible, there is some doubt as to how a man could build such a boat even with sufficient notice of the impending doom.
And yet noone has built a liferaft of those proportions 6:1? WTF? that says a design speed of in the region of 20kts.
You see no problem with presuming a conclusion before conducting the investigation? That’s not research—that’s rationalization.
The 1st sentence of the article;
While the Bible gives us essential details on many things, including the size and proportions of Noah’s Ark, it does not necessarily specify the precise shape of this vessel.
Actually, he just described the basics of how the shape of the vessel is developed ~ everyone's seen a scaled down 1/2 model of a sailing vessel at their favorite seaside pub or yacht club (and if they haven't, what are they waiting for, a flood?). Look at all the the information available in that 1/2 model once you have evenly sliced it up vertically and horizontally, then used the offset from centerline measurements you need to derive the moulded shapes at any point on the boat. At least that's how easy it was explained away to me before my 1st line drawing...after a number of pencils and many erasers my eyes got finally back to normal. I haven't done one in a long time and am in no hurry to :)
The 6:1 length to beam ratio would be based on a calculated righting moment, i.e., you want the center of gravity of the vessel's interior and topside decks, cabinetry, and cargo to be at an exact height inside the hull, one that allows her to expend energy by rolling, or moving with the seas, yet has enough ballast to right her.
For that, you would have needed to know quite closely the weight of all it's passengers as they would have been a substantial percentage of the gross displacement, and only God knew that figure.
As to the pointy end being designed to keep her stern to....maybe, but so would a sail at either end and/or a sea anchor at the other. Another handy use would be to have an extremely stout battering ram of sorts to stand off/keep her bottom off the rocks as they climbed into the mountains.
But then, God only knows.
It sure would've been one heck of a ride though.
You forget that it was a (relatively) short time after the Fall of Man in Eden during which the Ark was built. Noah lived to be 950 years old, remember (Genesis 9:29) - the men of this era were no doubt endowed with abilities far superior to the men of the modern era. (Perhaps the Nephilim (Genesis 6:4) were in Noah's paid employ?)
Men in today's era are exposed to much more radioactivity than from Noah's age. The water from the Flood came from both the vapor canopy in the upper atmosphere (which blocked harmful cosmic rays), and from the Fountains of the Deep (which, brought with them, the radioactive isotopes from under the earth that we find in the environment today). (Genesis 7:11)
Not only does this explain why men in and before the Flood era lived such long lives and had "superhuman" abilities (see the Pyramids, for example), it explains why radiometric dating is such a farce, since it doesn't calibrate properly for the effects of the Flood.
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