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Some cash, few guns found in southbound checks
Houston Chronicle ^ | 5/16/2009 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/16/2009 7:04:44 PM PDT by freeandfreezing

For the past five weeks, hundreds of agents participating in a newly intensified $95 million outbound inspection program have been stepping into southbound traffic lanes, stopping suspicious-looking cars and trucks....

No guns were found as the reporters watched; they rarely are.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; aliens; banglist; guns; mexico
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So much for the Administration's story that thousands of guns were being smuggled from the USA into Mexico. Actual searches of vehicles crossing the border find plenty of cash, but next to no guns.
1 posted on 05/16/2009 7:04:45 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Maybe they should move to the northbound lanes to stop people and methamphetamine.

Just a suggestion!


2 posted on 05/16/2009 7:07:32 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: freeandfreezing

The whole notion of the US being a major source of firearms is absurd. Ammunition possibly, but not firearms.

First, the weapons causing the most problems are legal only with an FFL. Smugglers are unlikely to want a paper trail of their desire to acquire fully automatic weapons.

Additionally, the weapons can be purchased easily in any number of other countries at prices much lower, and quantities much higher, than would be available in the US. The cost differential would more than overcome the additional shipping costs involved.


3 posted on 05/16/2009 7:11:11 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: freeandfreezing; All

Check this out that NAFBPO sent.
More from NAFBPO today here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2252287/posts?page=26#26

Apr 24, 2009 08:00 ET
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MONTREAL, QUEBEC—(Marketwire - April 24, 2009) - Forensic Technology would like to congratulate the governments of Mexico and the United States on the announced sharing of their ballistics databases. The decisive leadership displayed by both Governments in taking these actions ensures that police on both sides of the border have the tools they need to combat the escalating gun violence.

The situation along the Southwest Border was a significant topic during the April 16th meeting between Mexican President Felipe Calderon and U.S. President Barack Obama. “Obviously the Mexican people, particularly along the borders, have suffered great hardship. And as a consequence, if we partner effectively, I’m confident that we’re going to make progress” stated President Obama.

Earlier that day, the White House announced the following with regard to its new approach on a bilateral relationship, specifically arms trafficking:

“The United States and Mexico each have Integrated Ballistic Identification Systems (IBIS) that store digital photos and arms-related information related to criminal investigations. The United States and Mexico will bridge their IBIS systems in order to share digital images, ballistic markings, other arms-related information to help identify leads in violent crimes both in Mexico and in the United States.”

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President Calderon expressed his desire to modernize his country’s police force, “...we would like a renewal of our police forces in Mexico... at the same time, technologically, they will be top-notch, as the rest of the world, in investigation, in databases. We want a scientific police, one that is very well-trained in technology, and U.S. help will be very welcome and it will be essential.”

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4 posted on 05/16/2009 7:15:24 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: freeandfreezing
I just watched 'America's Most Wanted', and John Walsh says otherwise. Full autos, heavy machine guns, grenades, etc: all coming from over here. Something's gotta be done, he says. The administration's story is finding other outlets. No matter what the truth happens to be, I don't see the story going away. Not until their agenda for us is achieved.
5 posted on 05/16/2009 7:18:37 PM PDT by Seven plus One
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To: AuntB

I see a company that’s found itself a gravy train.


6 posted on 05/16/2009 7:22:09 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: SlapHappyPappy
You are right. The agents themselves know it too:

“I do not believe we can even make a dent in (southbound smuggling) because that assumes the cartels are complete idiots, which they’re not. Why in the world would they try to smuggle weapons and currency through a checkpoint when there are so many other options?” said Border Patrol Agent T.J. Bonner, president of the agents’ union.

According to CBP, between March 12 and April 30 officers seized:

—Fifty-one pieces of ammunition, weapons parts and guns..

--from the article.

7 posted on 05/16/2009 7:33:43 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
According to CBP, between March 12 and April 30 officers seized: Fifty-one pieces of ammunition, weapons parts and guns

A nearly full box of .22 rimfire bullets, a shotgun choke, and a bb gun I'll bet.

8 posted on 05/16/2009 7:50:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: freeandfreezing

I live close to US 77 south of Corpus, before the King Ranch, and I am telling you that the Task Force is out. They are pulling over vehicles in the southbound lanes, loke crazy.
Searching and stripping them down just like the northbound ones they stop.
I watch them. They sit and wait. They know who they are!


9 posted on 05/16/2009 7:53:10 PM PDT by Bibman (Still American and still here.)
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To: DBrow

“move to the northbound lanes”?

How bout the northbound...open fields?


10 posted on 05/16/2009 8:06:53 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: freeandfreezing
This is how the Obama administration controls the border?
Agents stopping people going INTO Mexico-How about pouring all that manpower into the OPPOSITE lane and stopping the thousands of illegals with their drugs and home-bred diseases coming FROM Mexico-this country is in big trouble and it's getting worse.
11 posted on 05/16/2009 8:08:58 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: AuntB
How many crimes have they actually solved with their technology? I think this is another case of a technology being rammed down our throats using a political mandate instead of being successful in the marketplace. As citizens we are inconvenienced. As taxpayers we are fleeced.
12 posted on 05/16/2009 8:36:56 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Seven plus One
Full autos, heavy machine guns, grenades, etc: all coming from over here. Something's gotta be done, he says.

He's right.

The solution is for our government to quit selling/giving them to the Mexican government. If they don't get them, the Federales can't turn around and sell/rent/give them to the cartels.

13 posted on 05/16/2009 9:38:50 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (We have nothing to fear, except our fearful government itself.)
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SlapHappyPappy said: "Ammunition possibly, but not firearms."

I doubt that. How about providing an estimate of the total number of rounds fired by criminals in Kalifornia last year? Was it even a thousand? Two thousand?

I would be surprised if Kalifornia's criminals used more ammunition last year than I have in my house. Ammunition will never be scarce to criminals.

14 posted on 05/16/2009 9:57:21 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

Actually, there is plenty of video proof, and actual arrests, of Mexican citizens buying cases of ammo in the US to take back to Mexico. Ammo from the US makes sense because the cost difference between the US and foreign sources is not enough to make up for the shipping and convenience. Additionally ammo is not like a fully automatic weapon. Just about anything they want is readily available.

It’s not like they can just but it in Mexico.


15 posted on 05/16/2009 10:15:47 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: freeandfreezing

They can state with assurance that they found 51 pieces of ammunition, plus ‘some parts and guns’. How many guns? 2? Maybe only 1?

And they want us to believe, as Janet Napolitano says later in the article, that there’s a ‘flood of guns’ flowing south acrocss the border.

Well, ol’ Janet can just kiss my grits. She’s either ignorant or pushing an agenda. And I think we both know which is which.


16 posted on 05/18/2009 12:17:46 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Hence my recurring question: how much of this stuff was exported in compliance with US export laws and with full knowledge & documentation of the BATFE?


17 posted on 05/18/2009 1:35:50 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: Seven plus One
John Walsh has been chapping his lips on the ass of “Law Enforcement” types for a long, long time. Why, Who knows?
18 posted on 05/18/2009 2:21:05 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Seven plus One
Full autos, heavy machine guns, grenades, etc: all coming from over here.

Gosh - I guess I'll have to lock up all of my completely legal & federally licensed full autos, heavy machine guns, & grenades (bought at Walmart - great prices!) that I've currently got sitting out in the front yard (no room in the closets), so they don't get stolen & smuggled into Mexico. /sarc

John Walsh is a freaking idiot...

19 posted on 05/18/2009 3:20:01 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: freeandfreezing
So much for the Administration's story that thousands of guns were being smuggled from the USA into Mexico. Actual searches of vehicles crossing the border find plenty of cash, but next to no guns.

And since they're saying "next to no" guns I'd bet that even the few they do find are one or two to a vehicle, meaning that it's simply personal weapons the guy's either forgotten to take out before going into Mexico or is willing to take the chance in order to have a little protection on him. In either case, not guns he intends to sell while in Mexico.

20 posted on 05/18/2009 3:23:39 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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