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To: reaganaut1
I bet part of this trend is explained by the rising fraction of the population that is Hispanic

Knowing the place of the Church in most Hispanics' life, I don't think so.
6 posted on 05/13/2009 10:01:53 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

I fear you are naive.


9 posted on 05/13/2009 10:05:31 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: aruanan

Sorry that dog don’t hunt. While there are many Hispanics that are good Catholics, many of the young ones are finding out if they have out-of-wedlock births, they get lots of freebees.

Why do you think the RATS are making so much headway in the Hispanic community? They are getting on the dole too.


13 posted on 05/13/2009 10:11:09 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: aruanan

The dimensions of the Hispanic baby boom are startling. The Hispanic birthrate is twice as high as that of the rest of the American population. That high fertility rate—even more than unbounded levels of immigration—will fuel the rapid Hispanic population boom in the coming decades. By 2050, the Latino population will have tripled, the Census Bureau projects. One in four Americans will be Hispanic by mid-century, twice the current ratio. In states such as California and Texas, Hispanics will be in the clear majority. Nationally, whites will drop from near 70 percent of the total population in 2000 to just half by 2050. Hispanics will account for 46 percent of the nation’s added population over the next two decades, the Pew Hispanic Center reports.

But it’s the fertility surge among unwed Hispanics that should worry policymakers. Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country—over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for every 1,000 unmarried white women, 22 for every 1,000 unmarried Asian women, and 66 for every 1,000 unmarried black women. Forty-five percent of all Hispanic births occur outside of marriage, compared with 24 percent of white births and 15 percent of Asian births. Only the percentage of black out-of-wedlock births—68 percent—exceeds the Hispanic rate. But the black population is not going to triple over the next few decades.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_4_hispanic_family_values.html


14 posted on 05/13/2009 10:11:46 AM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: aruanan

No offense, but you are either naive or ignorant to the obvious!

My wife is Hispanic (was Catholic, the rest of her family still IS) - she has two unmarried sisters: one with two kids and one with three; she has four cousins: all unmarried and either mothers or with child.

We have as many friends as I can count that are single women with at least one child! Many are Hispanic.


28 posted on 05/13/2009 10:54:20 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: aruanan

I don’t know. You might want to see how many Catholic Hispanics are having out of wedlock births. I’d bet the number isn’t much different than non-RC Hispanics.


32 posted on 05/13/2009 11:03:49 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Everything for Unions, Nothing for Defense!)
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To: aruanan

It is, though...

a disproportionate amount of these out of wedlock births are to young hispanic women.

And I’ll state the Coulterism again, even though someone jumped down my neck last time:

if a woman makes choices leading to having a baby without a husband, she is intentionally raising a criminal.


38 posted on 05/13/2009 11:46:24 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: aruanan

Having been raised in the southwest and having been Catholic as well, I can tell you that to just assume that because most hispanics are Catholic they lead a pious life, is a mistake. They are, after all, people . The statistics in this article bear this out.


45 posted on 05/13/2009 12:06:45 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: aruanan
Knowing the place of the Church in most Hispanics' life, I don't think so.
Nope not any more.
The one's here in the US are doing it for all the 'wunnerful' benefits that come with being an unwed mother in the USA -- like having a US CITIZEN as a child. Many are also young teens and the father sperm donor is some gang-banger. (there's been articles posted with all the stats on unwed hispanics).

And by the 'religion' logic, there wouldn't be any Hispanic gangs either. All that killing, drug dealing, stealing and stuff are mortal sins. The scum in MS-13 are all Catholics. So much for them caring about their religion.

So sorry, that religion and Church argument is baloney.
That's Dubya's 'Family Values Don't Stop At The Rio Grande' canard.

48 posted on 05/13/2009 12:10:21 PM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: aruanan
Sorry, lo ciento, usted no es verdad.
Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for every 1,000 unmarried white women, 22 for every 1,000 unmarried Asian women, and 66 for every 1,000 unmarried black women. Forty-five percent of all Hispanic births occur outside of marriage, compared with 24 percent of white births and 15 percent of Asian births. Only the percentage of black out-of-wedlock births—68 percent—exceeds the Hispanic rate

Source: http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_4_hispanic_family_values.html


49 posted on 05/13/2009 12:14:07 PM PDT by bvw
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Wait! There's more -- comparison of teenage birthrates ...
The Mexican teen birthrate is 93 births per every 1,000 girls, compared with 27 births for every 1,000 white girls, 17 births for every 1,000 Asian girls, and 65 births for every 1,000 black girls. To put these numbers into international perspective, Japan’s teen birthrate is 3.9, Italy’s is 6.9, and France’s is 10.

Source: SAME


54 posted on 05/13/2009 12:19:51 PM PDT by bvw
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To: aruanan

I think a big part of the problem is that many of these “hispanics” are Indians. They are Catholic and attend Mass but their culture places a low value on marriage and for the necessity of personally caring for their children. In meso-America they are the source of an unending supply of children in orphanges.

As an aside, I blame racism in the Church for turning a blind eye to this sin.


56 posted on 05/13/2009 12:25:37 PM PDT by Varda
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To: aruanan
Knowing the place of the Church in most Hispanics' life, I don't think so.

You would be wrong.

Hispanic Family Values?

"But it’s the fertility surge among unwed Hispanics that should worry policymakers. Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country—over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly one and a half times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for every 1,000 unmarried white women, 22 for every 1,000 unmarried Asian women, and 66 for every 1,000 unmarried black women. Forty-five percent of all Hispanic births occur outside of marriage, compared with 24 percent of white births and 15 percent of Asian births. Only the percentage of black out-of-wedlock births—68 percent—exceeds the Hispanic rate. But the black population is not going to triple over the next few decades."
136 posted on 05/16/2009 7:46:27 AM PDT by Kozak (e)
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