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The police can attach a GPS to your car without a warrant [WI]
The Patriot Room ^ | May 10, 2009 | Clyde Middleton

Posted on 05/10/2009 1:37:42 PM PDT by clyde_m

It seems that the police, at least in Wisconsin, can attach a GPS tracking device to a car for any reason or no reason at all. No warrant or any level of suspicion is required. The case does not appear to be erroneously decided, and should withstand further review. It’s time for the captains of industry to develop a reasonably priced product that can disable such devices attached to cars.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: fourthamendment; gps; gpstracking; liberties; warrantlesssearch; wisconsin
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1 posted on 05/10/2009 1:37:43 PM PDT by clyde_m
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There’s plenty of GPS signal blockers available for less than $200. But, from what I understand, their legality is somewhat questionable under Federal as well as multiple-state’s laws.


2 posted on 05/10/2009 1:41:21 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: clyde_m
The case does not appear to be erroneously decided

Bulls%^t. Just being unconstitutional makes it erroneously decided.

3 posted on 05/10/2009 1:42:17 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: clyde_m

“Chains”


4 posted on 05/10/2009 1:43:06 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: clyde_m

A lot of new cars already have the GPS and all they have to do is track it.


5 posted on 05/10/2009 1:48:31 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: clyde_m

A lot of new cars already have the GPS and all they have to do is track it.


6 posted on 05/10/2009 1:48:34 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: clyde_m

In MA there has been talk of attaching a radio transmitter to the mandatory car inspection stickers. That way, the state can measure where you go, how many miles you drive, and then send you a tax bill based on how much carbon you used.


7 posted on 05/10/2009 1:48:34 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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Forget them going to the trouble of putting one on your car...Got a cell phone?

We already give them a leash to monitor us 24 hours a day and WE pay for it out of our own pockets!

8 posted on 05/10/2009 1:50:25 PM PDT by BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL (Certified Right Wing Extremist)
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To: clyde_m
The most disturbing part of this isn't the government tracking your movements, its the lack of expense or effort to do it. If they used live surveillance, tracking by human eye, helicopter, or video cameras, it'd take some effort to track someone, making it pretty clear that officers would have to justify the time and effort to their superiors.

Whereas a device that receives and records GPS positioning is cheap and affordable. Specialized equipment isn't even required, you could easily attach an inexpensive cell phone which can track that data. But the initial point was that this is constitutional. Which it is. And as the article concludes, it's also not ethical.

Legislative constraints on this practice is probably going to be the only answer, but in putting in restraints on the police, they'll reinforce restraints on the public in using blocking devices. Which would I rather have? Unrestrained police powers to put GPS devices on my car, or unrestrained abilities to use a GPS blocker? I'd personally rather have the second, and the first restrained by more generic malicious investigation laws - if the police have no good reason to study your movements, they shouldn't.

9 posted on 05/10/2009 1:56:11 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Domandred

Kind of a weirdly written decision.


10 posted on 05/10/2009 1:56:28 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ClearCase_guy
“In MA there has been talk of attaching a radio transmitter to the mandatory car inspection stickers. That way, the state can measure where you go, how many miles you drive, and then send you a tax bill based on how much carbon you used.”

Geez, just the sound of that illustrates how completely devoid our current government is from the ideals of our nations founding.
Will we do anything about it?

11 posted on 05/10/2009 1:57:11 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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I't won't be long that a GPS will be required for all vehiclesm

ground based sensors will send violations via sattelite to auto debit your Drivers Bond Account

and the courts will allow it

12 posted on 05/10/2009 1:59:44 PM PDT by KTM rider (Don't let the Obamunism cancer spread, cut it out before it is too late)
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The government can already track you through your cell phone or the GPS on your vehicle. They can track your spending through use of your debit or credit cards. If you have a laptop and use Wi-Fi they can track that. As paranoid as it may seem, how do we know that driver’s licenses or currency doesn’t already have embedded RFID trackers?

The right to Privacy and Freedom of movement died about 3 years ago.


13 posted on 05/10/2009 2:04:38 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Saiga 12 shotgun - When the Zombies see it, they'll sh*t bricks.)
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and the sheeple feebly bleated in protest


14 posted on 05/10/2009 2:07:34 PM PDT by KTM rider (.......and the sheeple feebly bleated in protest)
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and the sheeple feebly bleated in protest


15 posted on 05/10/2009 2:07:41 PM PDT by KTM rider (.......and the sheeple feebly bleated in protest)
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To: kingu
unrestrained abilities to use a GPS blocker...

Great and well thought. We live in a nation that has a limited government and the corollary is an unrestrained people.

16 posted on 05/10/2009 2:09:09 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: clyde_m

A lot of mis-information on this thread.

1. You cannot be tracked by the GPS unit in your car. It is a receiver only. This excludes cars with OnStar (or similar devices) which have a transmitter for the service. BTW, OnStar requires a warrant from LE to allow tracking.

2. You can be tracked by your call phone. To a limited extent however it really is best for fixed positions not moving. Cell Phone companies also require a warrant.

Just trying to set the record straight....


17 posted on 05/10/2009 2:11:20 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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-—more-(same subject, different article)-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2248017/posts


18 posted on 05/10/2009 2:24:13 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: clyde_m

yea, let’s feed the government our money now and watch it grow even bigger!


19 posted on 05/10/2009 2:28:53 PM PDT by RC one
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Scary news.
Appeals court backs police GPS use, raises questions
Wisconsin court upholds GPS tracking by police
20 posted on 05/10/2009 2:35:46 PM PDT by Jean S
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