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"New Testament Teaching on Homosexuality Not True" -Obama Christian Appointee to Faith-Based Pro...
CNS News ^ | Wednesday, April 08, 2009 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 05/10/2009 6:22:03 AM PDT by presidio9

President Obama has named to his faith-based advisory council a self-professed Christian who holds that the New Testament's teaching that homosexual behavior is unnatural and wrong--which is found in St. Paul's letter to the Romans--“is not true."

The appointee, Harry Knox, has also said that Obama's decision to invite the Rev. Rick Warren to say a prayer at the Inauguration "tainted" the ceremony and that Pope Benedict XVI is a "discredited leader."

Harry Knox, a professed gay Christian who is director of the religion and faith program at the Human Rights Campaign, a homosexual rights group, was named to President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships on Monday. The advisory council gives federal grants to faith-based organizations.

The appointment came after Knox criticized Obama prior to the Inauguration for selecting Warren, a California megachurch pastor and best-selling author, to deliver the invocation. Writing in The Huffington Post blog, Knox said to Obama, “We don’t feel hopeful anticipation of a new day in our country, and we don’t feel optimism. We feel betrayed.”

Knox said in the December article that Warren’s invocation would make the Jan. 20 Inauguration a “tainted” event because Warren supported the ballot initiative in California to amend the state constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman.

On the PBS News Hour in December, Knox said that Warren “has in fact leveraged homophobia to get ahead in his career. … This is the worst possible choice the president could have made. This is a divisive choice. … We said to the president-elect today in very strong language, the strongest we can think of and be respectful of the office, you have really slapped us. And we want you to think about that and think very hard what your actions will be going forward because this very symbolic, early decision has sent the exact wrong message.”

Knox could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Knox is one of 25 members of the advisory board of the White House Office Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Obama announced the formation of the office in early February, a continuation of a similar office started by President George W. Bush to issue federal grants to faith-based, non-profit charitable organizations.

Other members include Bishop Charles Blake of the Church of God in Christ in Chicago; the Rev. Peg Chemberlin, president-elect of the National Council of Churches USA; Dr. Frank Page, president emeritus of the Southern Baptist Convention; the Rev. Jim Wallis, president of the liberal Christian group Sojourners; and the Rev. Joel C. Hunter of Northland Church in Longwood, Fla.

Knox has been a long-time gay activist focusing on the faith community. He previously worked for the New York-based Freedom to Marry group, for Georgia Equality and Equality Florida. He has won awards from liberal religious organizations.

In a debate with the Rev. Gino Jennings recorded Nov. 28, 2004 at the First Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ in Philadelphia, the two men sparred over various biblical verses references homosexual behavior.

This included the Book of Romans, in which St. Paul wrote, “Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.”

After reading the scripture, Jennings asked, “Do you believe that? That if a man lie with a man or a woman with a woman it is against nature?”

“I do not believe it,” answered Knox, who at the time was the program director for the group Freedom to Marry.

Jennings responded, “So this is a lie?”

Knox affirmed, “That is not true.”

“Paul did not have any idea of the kind of love that I feel for a partner when I am partnered. He didn’t know what that was about,” Knox said. “The straight man, the heterosexual man who got the privilege of writing the book, the educated, rich, heterosexual man, Paul, who got to write the book, didn’t think it was natural because for him it must not have been.”

Jennings later responded that Paul was not the sole author of the writings. “So you are saying Paul was just closed-minded. I totally disagree because the book says this, the book tells us that all scripture, all of the scripture, not some of it, but all scripture are given by the inspiration of God,” said Jennings.

Before starting at the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) in 2005, Knox also worked as development director of Equality Florida and was the executive director of Georgia Equality. While in Georgia, his groups successfully lobbied corporations such as Coca-Cola, Bell South, Delta, and Cingular to extend same-sex benefits to employees.

At the HRC, Knox established a weekly preaching resource that provides scriptural commentary to pastors interested in homosexual perspectives on the Bible. He also helped create a network of 22 “progressive state clergy coalitions” around the country, according to the HRC Web site.

Knox has the potential to be a polarizing figure, said the Rev. Louis Sheldon, chairman of the conservative Traditional Values Coalition.

“Everything he says will be front-page news,” Sheldon told CNSNews.com. “He will be a political liability to the president. All the good that the faith-based office does will get buried by a loose cannon that fires over the bow. But that’s what Obama wants.”

Last month, Knox was quoted in a gay newspaper criticizing the pope and the Catholic group Knights of Columbus, mainly because the Knights supported the traditional marriage amendment to the California constitution.

Knox told the San Francisco-based gay newspaper the Bay Area Reporter, “The Knights of Columbus do a great deal of good in the name of Jesus Christ, but in this particular case, they were foot soldiers of a discredited army of oppression.” In the newspaper, he included among the “discredited leaders” Catholic bishops and Pope Benedict XVI, as “A pope who literally today said condoms don't help in control of AIDS."

In a brief interview Monday with CNSNews.com, Knox stood by his comments on the pope.

“The pope needs to start telling the truth about condom use,” Knox told CNSNews.com. “We are eager to help him do that. Until he is willing to do that and able, he’s doing a great deal more harm than good--not just in Africa but around the world. It is endangering people’s lives.”

The pope’s comments were mischaracterized by Knox, said Catholic League President Bill Donohue.

“When Pope Benedict XVI recently said that condoms are not the answer to HIV/AIDS, he was simply voicing common sense: the promiscuous distribution of condoms has coincided with a precipitous increase in HIV/AIDS,” Donohue said in a statement Tuesday. “But to gay activists like Knox, the pope is a liar. Indeed, he instructed the pope to ‘start telling the truth about condom use,’ holding the Holy Father accountable for ‘endangering people’s lives.’ He never explained how calls for abstinence could possibly jeopardize anyone’s life.”

In 2000, Knox won the Cordle Award for Promoting God’s Diversity, and the Lancaster Theological Seminary’s 2005 Robert V. Moss Medal for Excellence in Ministry.


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1 posted on 05/10/2009 6:22:04 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

So why does Knox put up with that “fundamentalist” Obama?


2 posted on 05/10/2009 6:23:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: presidio9

Paul would have been sorry to read how wrong he was. Would have then taken the shuttle back from Damascus.


3 posted on 05/10/2009 6:26:12 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart........Palin 2012, can't come soon enough.)
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To: presidio9

So, like most liberals, Knox believes he is smarter than St Paul on the subject of homosexuality.

Liberal arrogance will be their undoing.


4 posted on 05/10/2009 6:26:45 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: presidio9

The Plan is right on schedule.


5 posted on 05/10/2009 6:29:00 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: presidio9
In 2000, Knox won the Cordle Award for Promoting God’s Diversity, and the Lancaster Theological Seminary’s 2005 Robert V. Moss Medal for Excellence in Ministry.

Meh.. Academia is nothing but a liberal circle jerk. Make up all kinds of awards and honors to give one another. These pukes disgust me.

6 posted on 05/10/2009 6:30:42 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: presidio9

Wonder what else in the NT is not true?


7 posted on 05/10/2009 6:31:34 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: presidio9
All the good that the faith-based office does will get buried by a loose cannon that fires over the bow. But that’s what Obama wants.”

This whole concept of the Feds doling out money to faith groups was a bad idea when the Stupid Party hatched it. Under the Evil Party, it's a disaster.

8 posted on 05/10/2009 6:32:19 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: presidio9

Shame on any conservatives who cheered George W. Bush’s “faith based” government funded program.


9 posted on 05/10/2009 6:32:20 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: presidio9
Harry Knox, a professed gay Christian...

"gay christian", the ultimate oxymoron!

10 posted on 05/10/2009 6:34:10 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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Where to start? I’ll say this...he wants the pope to tell the truth about condom use? OK, here it is: In emphasizing condom use, the Left is stating that they are willing to allow a certain percentage of those who follow their advice to die.

Condoms fail. The Libs know this. But their politics is more important than a the lives of those who take their advice, use a condom that fails and contract a disease that will ultimately kill them. So, the Left, when it advocates condom use, has a built in, acceptable mortality rate. Condoms do not stop the transmission of AIDS. It may slow the rate of transmission down a bit, amongst those who actually use condoms, but it can not stop it. Abstinence, following the word of the Lord, stops it. But that doesn’t score the Left any political points. Dead AIDS patients do.


11 posted on 05/10/2009 6:34:29 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: presidio9
Harry Knox, a professed gay Christian

Sorry, but this is PURE, 100%, B.S. Knox is NOT a Christian. You cannot pick and choose what you want out of the Bible. You cannot 2,000 years later decide that what was written then is not what was meant. John, Luke and writers of the Gospels did not write these things out of mid air. They were spoken to them by the Lord. They were taught to them by the Lord. Thus, the Word cannot be changed by man. Knox is going to find that out the hard way. When Judgment Day comes, he will find out his lies to himself to justify his life style just don't go over with God.

12 posted on 05/10/2009 6:34:47 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Right wing military retiree. Proudly on DHLS hit list!!!!!)
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To: Raycpa
Wonder what else in the NT is not true?

I was wondering the same thing.

Like one of my old pastors would say, "Either it's all true, or it's all lies."

So, who to believe? The homosexual with an agenda, or Paul under guidance from the Holy Spirit...hmm...decisions, decisions...

13 posted on 05/10/2009 6:35:39 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: presidio9

please Knox and the Like just Ignore scripture and Pretend they are correct!...Lunacy! that is why only 1 out of 2 homosexuals live to age 65 and have a 1860 male expectancy! it is unnatural!

Soddom and gommorah? fairy tales?? or and Obamination!


14 posted on 05/10/2009 6:35:56 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (“Nothing is more powerful than a man who prays” (St. John Crisostomus))
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To: presidio9

This act is not primarly designed to advance the Homosexuality agenda.


15 posted on 05/10/2009 6:36:22 AM PDT by VlPu
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To: presidio9
Talk about a discredited leader, Obama. Well may be that when you have no credits, like birth certificate, transcripts, Theseus and your self credits are drug use and radical associations you are much questioned. Obama, Repent!
16 posted on 05/10/2009 6:37:48 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: presidio9

I wonder how Knox feels about all the scriptures condemning fornication and adultery? Does Knox have any idea how people feel when they are cheating on their spouses? Moses was so close-minded.


17 posted on 05/10/2009 6:37:58 AM PDT by ShandaLear (I LOVE RUSH!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So why does Knox put up with that “fundamentalist” Obama?

Ooh! I know that one! Because 0bama's a stealth jihadist, not a Christian!

18 posted on 05/10/2009 6:40:10 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (It's all resistance...and it's all good.)
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To: RetiredArmy
I agree. When you deny that the scriptures are the inspired word of God...even when you disagree with it (and that makes YOU wrong)...you are not a Christian. One of the essentials of the faith is believing that God's word is inspired. ALL OF IT...not just the parts you like.

When you pick and choose...everything is suspect...including the resurrection. You can't let that camel's nose under the tent flap.

19 posted on 05/10/2009 6:41:43 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Erik Latranyi
You said it wrong:

So, like most liberals, Knox believes he is smarter than St Paul God on the subject of homosexuality.

20 posted on 05/10/2009 6:43:46 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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