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Jack Kemp's Warning
The Jamestown Sun ^ | 5/9/09 | Steve and Cokie Roberts

Posted on 05/09/2009 12:43:27 PM PDT by steve-b

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To: steve-b
Last year, conservative Republicans thought they could rally their base by opposing "amnesty" for undocumented workers, but today 61 percent favor making citizenship easier for illegal immigrants and 35 percent are opposed. Less than two years ago, those numbers were almost even....

That is a damed lie. Not even Obama voters favor amnesty for illegals:

A nationwide survey of actual voters reveals that Americans strongly support immigration enforcement, and that less than one-third of Obama voters favor granting amnesty to illegal aliens.

Obama voters

That entire Roberts' article is just a rehash of all the BS the libs and RINOs want to pawn off as an explanation of Republican losses in 2006 and 2008. It is precisely what those who wish the party ill want the party to swallow hook, line and sinker and act upon. Then things will be even worse.

21 posted on 05/09/2009 1:34:11 PM PDT by Will88
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To: steve-b
"Last year, conservative Republicans thought they could rally their base by opposing "amnesty" for undocumented workers, but today 61 percent favor making citizenship easier for illegal immigrants and 35 percent are opposed. Less than two years ago, those numbers were almost even...."

More BS

22 posted on 05/09/2009 1:34:53 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: steve-b

We’re suppose to leave Reagan behind and pick up Jack Kemp’s philosophy on how to govern? The big tent is great but continuing to allow those whose purpose is to water down what conservatives stand for is to continue to create liberals operating as republicans. Where’s the two party system?


23 posted on 05/09/2009 1:41:10 PM PDT by swheats (Time is still the best equalizer.)
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To: steve-b

The black linemen who blocked for him and the blue-collar workers who cheered for him should all have a place in the GOP.

And who says they do not?
All you need to be a Republican is the belief in the Republican Party Platform.
If you do you are in. If you don’t why would you want to be in?

The current problem the Republican Party has is that it is not longer Republican and just a lite version of the Democrat Party.
So you have full fledged denmocrats in the Republican party and they feelnot entirely supported because the Republican party is only democrat lite.Well get the hell out and be a democrat.


24 posted on 05/09/2009 1:48:10 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: steve-b
So will the Republican Party now be a permanent minority? Of course not. Nothing is permanent in politics. After the 2004 elections, Republicans held the presidency and both Houses of Congress and there was a lot of loose talk about a permanent Republican majority.

I think the Roberts' know their article is a pack of lies, selective vision, and wishful thinking.

Above we see the face saving final paragraph from two who know their column is a hit piece aimed at helping the Dems by rehasing all the nonsensical explanations and recommendations for the Republicans they know will harm the party further if its dumb enough to follow the advice of the likes of McCain, and Graham, Powell, and Carville and the multitude of admitted libs who are offering their analysis, including the esteemed Roberts couple here.

25 posted on 05/09/2009 1:48:42 PM PDT by Will88
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To: steve-b

Yeah, I have to listen to Cokie Roberts and her husand, lifelong democrats lecture me? Why did’nt they write this article in 2004 when there were tons of Republicans in NY politics?


27 posted on 05/09/2009 1:50:40 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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""I've taken showers," Jack Kemp loved to say, "with the kind of people most Republicans have never met." "

What the HELL is that supposed to mean? He thinks Republicans don't like to be around 'them niggahs'?

If I had heard him say this I would have been REALLY pissed!

28 posted on 05/09/2009 1:54:37 PM PDT by Mr. K (Is it too early to start calling this the “The Failed Obama Administration”?)
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To: steve-b
Olympia Snowe might well have wished she could have been in the same shower with Jack Kemp and his buddies but I doubt any of them would agree.

I also doubt any of the football players would agree with the idea of taxing them into penury in their working years.

29 posted on 05/09/2009 1:54:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: steve-b

My daddy taught me not to speak ill of the dead.

I will remember Jack Kemp for the good man that he was. I will remember the good that he did for complete strangers.

I will hope that when I have left this life, others will remember me with the same dignity.


30 posted on 05/09/2009 1:57:46 PM PDT by Gator113 (Weak-coward-racist-white hating-lying-traitor= Surrender Monkey in Chief-B. Hussein Obama...)
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To: Mr. K

I thought he was talking about Cokie and Barney Frank.


31 posted on 05/09/2009 1:58:15 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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"I've taken showers," Jack Kemp loved to say, "with the kind of people most Republicans have never met."

I guess we're not supposed to speak ill of the dead, but this was the sort of thing I detested in Jack Kemp.

ML/NJ

32 posted on 05/09/2009 2:02:04 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: SoConPubbie; nmh
Big-Tent is just code-phrase for dropping your principles.

It doesn't have to be. We saw what happened in CA with Prop. 8. The issue was presently clearly to minority voters, and they overwhelmingly voted against it.

The GOP should get its act together, and take time representing the issues of lower taxes, social conservatism, and less instrusive government to those same voters.

It's silly to complain about black and Hispanic voters not supporting the GOP message when we never even bother presenting it to them directly.

33 posted on 05/09/2009 2:08:26 PM PDT by SuziQ
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"I've taken showers," Jack Kemp loved to say, "with the kind of people most Republicans have never met."

Who cares. That means nothing. All the minorities Kemp knew had been to college and were earning top salaries. He did not associate with those in the lower income levels, and who dealt with the most problems.

People forget that, all those southerners living in red stats - that RINOs are so uncomfortable with - know more blacks, have been to school with more blacks, had more black friends, and interacted with more blacks by the time they finish high school than Kemp met in his entire life. Kemp always thought he had far more insight and far more solutions than he actually had.

34 posted on 05/09/2009 2:09:24 PM PDT by Will88
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What the HELL is that supposed to mean? He thinks Republicans don't like to be around 'them niggahs'?

Hold your fire! Kemp played pro football from 1957-69, then was elected to Congress in 1971.

Recall that the GOP of the seventies was much different than the GOP today. Back then, the party was the political playpen for so-called blue-blood country club Republicans.

Accordingly, for its time, it was a very apt statement.The statement was intended as an insult to people who deserved insulting.

Nowadays, though, when Lindsay Graham calls his voters "bigots" because they object to amnesty, he's the one who's out of bounds.

35 posted on 05/09/2009 2:09:34 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: SoConPubbie

And dropping your PANTS, bending over and taking one for the team.

No thanks!!

· By all means, let’s have the conservative movement “…leave Reagan behind…” and invent some sappy, empty phrases — like “Hope” and “Change” —
that the ACORN morons can get a grip on and they’ll flock to the GOP.
Here are some that might work:
WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IS MORE BUSH!
A CHICKEN IN EVERY POT.
2 CARS IN EVERY GARAGE.
A FREE LATE-TERM ABORTION FOR EVERY UNWANTED PREGNANCY.
A GAY BABY-SITTER OR TEACHER FOR EVERY CHILD.
FREE MONEY FOR EVERYONE.
DEFICITS ARE OUR FRIEND.
MORE LIKE THE DEMOCRATS THAN THE DEMOCRATS.
WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IS MORE MUSLIMS.
KISS A TYRANT — KICK AN ALLY.
A FREE ILLEGAL HISPANIC HOUSEBOY IN EVERY HOME.
Yeah, that’s the ticket. Let’s hurl ALL the traditional and time-tested values on which America became, in under 2 centuries, that shining city on a hill, a beacon of freedom and a world leader over the side to appeal to the ravening masses of MTV, VHI, government school indoctrinated imbiciles that ACORN inticed to the polls with a pack of smokes and a pint of Ripple.
Sounds like a HELL OF A PLAN TO ME!!!
Feel free to add YOUR suggestions.


36 posted on 05/09/2009 2:44:29 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: nmh

And taking a shower with them does not mean you also give them a reach-around.

If Kemp’s adice is followed, that would be the next step.


37 posted on 05/09/2009 2:46:32 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: steve-b

Bullsh$t....."Big Tent" is code for sell-out of principles. The Republican abandonment of core values and principles IS what has destroyed the Party, and unless conservative values are returned to the Party, it's just Democrat-lite. RINO's are the problem!

38 posted on 05/09/2009 2:57:57 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama take care o' me!")
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To: Dick Bachert

HUGE sigh ...

“And taking a shower with them does not mean you also give them a reach-around.

If Kemp’s adice is followed, that would be the next step.”

THIS is what the GOP has done.

It does NOT work.

The GOP is a party that now stands for NOTHING.

Kemp is out of step. Kemp has always been to the LEFT.

Kemp’s advice should not be followed since it does NOT work. It makes NO SENSE to follow what does NOT work. I don’t care if the person is alive or dead who gives BAD ADVICE.


39 posted on 05/09/2009 3:44:05 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SuziQ
Is there some reason Hispanics and Blacks have to be addressed separately?

What I'd like to see is ONE message out there for all and delivered properly so they “get it”. I don't want any more “apologists”.
Your reference to Prop 8 in CA was presented on PRINCIPLE. the "big tent" ignores principles and tries to appeal to all with conflicting motives. The "big tent" doesn't work.

40 posted on 05/09/2009 3:47:32 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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