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They're after our guns
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Posted on 05/09/2009 7:31:04 AM PDT by marktwain

Sen. Dianne Feinstein recently said that she will pick the time, she will pick the place and she will bring back the failed Clinton gun ban. And she said President Obama will sign it.

Most of the media has swept it under the rug, like always. But they can't deny it any longer and there's no doubt about it. They're coming after every law-abiding gun owner in America. They want your name and personal information in a federal database. That's right - national registration of all firearms.

The Speaker of the House - Nancy Pelosi - fully admitted her gun registration plan, in an admission wrapped around outright untruths about the Second Amendment and our freedom.

When pressed about her goals for gun legislation on ABC's "Good Morning America," Pelosi said: "... The Supreme Court has ruled in a direction that gives more opportunity for people to have guns, (not true) ... We never denied that right. (Really?) ... We don't want to take their guns away (sure, Nancy) ... We want them registered and we have to rid the debate of the misconceptions that people have about what gun safety means."

(Actually, gun owners fully know gun safety a lot better than you do, gun owners want "crime control" but you refuse to oblige them, like always).

Pelosi's idea of "gun safety" is every gun ban, ammunition ban, and licensing scheme that has come across her desk. She's spent an entire congressional career voting to deny the rights of lawful gun owners.

Now, she's put out her congressional agenda - coming soon: "We want them registered."

They can't deny it. And they can't deny the determination and might of America's lawful gun owners, who don't want their names in some national government database, just waiting to be abused by Second Amendment-hating bureaucrats. We have known for years who our enemies are within our own government.

American gun owners fully understand what gun registration leads to. So, bring it on, Speaker Pelosi. We're ready, as the Supreme Court is with us, not you, and not Sen. Feinstein.

Bob Ireland Vallejo


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A well written letter. Registration *is* Confiscation.
1 posted on 05/09/2009 7:31:06 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

They can have them....

If they can catch me and catch lead.


2 posted on 05/09/2009 7:36:24 AM PDT by I Hate Obama (Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made- Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: marktwain
The NRA is still giving away free trial one year memberships at

    http://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/

Also, the second option offers regular multi-year memberships at reduced prices.

3 posted on 05/09/2009 7:36:28 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: I Hate Obama
These people are emboldened.....so I expect their self anointment to the omnipotent ones to cause them to make a politically fatal mistake....it's coming and them are going....

They are idiots with power....

4 posted on 05/09/2009 7:42:50 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: marktwain

I will never ever register my guns!!!!!


5 posted on 05/09/2009 7:47:02 AM PDT by SonnyBubba
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To: marktwain
For the first time in almost 40 years I'm gonna buy a firearm.I'm doing so for two reasons and two reasons only....1)the SCOTUS recently made it perfectly clear that I have the Constitutional right to own one and...2)because it would pi$$ off Osama,Pelosi,Reid,Kennedy,Kerry and my beloved Governor,”Coupe Deval”, no end!!! ;-)
6 posted on 05/09/2009 7:50:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: SonnyBubba
I will never ever register my guns!!!!!

If you were,by chance,ever charged under Federal or state law (assuming they *could* charge you) would you take the case through the state and/or Federal courts like Heller did? Just curious....not trying to give you a hard time.

7 posted on 05/09/2009 7:53:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Don’t just do it for them (to piss them off), do it because it will please you. guaranteed.


8 posted on 05/09/2009 7:56:26 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: marktwain

Again, and repeat after me, folks: They can pass whatever ‘legislation’ they want, we’re not giving up the guns, period. And if they come after them, our Founding Fathers would be very disappointed if we we don’t exercise the implicit rights they gave us.


9 posted on 05/09/2009 7:56:34 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: marktwain
We're ready, as the Supreme Court is with us, not you, and not Sen. Feinstein.

The question is....just how many Maoists will Osama be able to appoint to the SCOTUS and just who will they be replacing?

10 posted on 05/09/2009 7:57:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: marktwain

Come and get ‘em...one round at a time!


11 posted on 05/09/2009 7:58:02 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: marktwain
Thanks to Obama's gun control ambitions, and the stupidity of the other gun grabbers, we have millions of new and long time gun owners who have stocked up with more guns and ammo, for the coming civil war....

They KNOW we've got them. So now, all they have to do is figure out how they're going to get them away from us, and live to tell about it. They know that we understand why they want our guns. It's so they can control us, and we're not going to let that happen. NO ONE bought new guns and more ammo, just so they can turn them in if they ban our guns. I think we're in better shape now than ever before because their evil plans backfired on them.

Yep. They've got a real delima on their hands!

12 posted on 05/09/2009 7:58:03 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: marktwain

That’s why we should buy what we want now. They’re waiting for when the time is right to bring the law down on owners, so investments now will prove prudent later.


13 posted on 05/09/2009 8:03:12 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart........Palin 2012, can't come soon enough.)
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To: Squantos
Of course I could be wrong, but I've observed something which could very well work against those legislators encroaching on the RKBA scene.

The problem is that everybody except those who are habitually and perpetually armed is scared. I'd go so far to say that they've gone past the point of being scared. They're seriously concerned about personal security. Everybody knows somebody who has been a victim of some sort. Personal security is at the forefront of the minds of almost everybody who doesn't practice it out of habit. Those who aren't personally armed and who might even lean leftwards a little (or even a lot) take some degree of comfort in knowing someone else nearby who IS armed.

These legislators are out of touch and it's going to cause them issues this time around. The last time legislators seriously attempted something like this, we didn't have quite the perceived level of terrorism, inner city gang violence, and crime as a result of the mass numbers of illegal immigrants. Whether or not it's real, it's perceived, and perception is a powerful driving force. It's ironic in a way, because whether or not it's true, the MSM has made it to be so and this shapes the opinions of those who would ordinarily support such things.

Nobody's giving up anything. Those who own the hardware certainly won't, and those who think they can depend on those who own the hardware aren't about to sacrifice any level of their own personal security, perceived or real. We've all learned one thing about liberals, and that is that they're all to willing to give away the belongings of others, but this particular issue presently leaves them in a serious quandary because they know that they'll be giving away personal security if they support it! Neither category is going to support this, and that leaves legislators with a very, very small element of support.

Down underneath if all this really all boils down to the reality that the large moderate support base for the left has lost confidence in their leadership. They're not quite ready to admit it yet, but when lefties take comfort and security in association with Nappy's Domestic Terrorists, something is definitely WRONG with plans like this.


14 posted on 05/09/2009 8:03:58 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: marktwain
IMHO, it “ain’t” going to happen.
15 posted on 05/09/2009 8:08:57 AM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: marktwain
And she said President Obama will sign it.

And the voters - even CA's voters - will throw her ass out of office.

People understand whats at stake here, and they understand the government's motives.

16 posted on 05/09/2009 8:09:44 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: going hot
Don’t just do it for them (to piss them off), do it because it will please you.

It wouldn't particularly please me.I'm not a hunter and never have been...not many folks living in Greater Boston are hunters.I live in a relatively safe and quiet area so crime isn't a huge consideration.Yes,I'd enjoy some occasional target shooting.....the rifle range was the only true enjoyment I got out of my illustrious Army "career" (71 Bravo...clerk typist).The greatest pleasure I'd get,as I suggested earlier,is that Osama Hussein Obama doesn't want me to have one and will do everything within his powers (including the appointment of SCOTUS justices) to deny me the right.

17 posted on 05/09/2009 8:10:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: marktwain

Go ahead Nancy, kick that hornets nest...


18 posted on 05/09/2009 8:13:16 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: SonnyBubba
I will never ever register my guns!!!!!

Neither will I. If I had guns that is. Because I don't have any. Not one.

19 posted on 05/09/2009 8:14:01 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Get rid of the dirty moderates. Get rid of them,)
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To: marktwain
Registration CAN and always seems to lead to Confiscation, or 'banning'.

It happened in Chicago with handguns. Originally the registration process was easy and *somewhat non intrusive* (you did it once and that was that). But THEN, in 1984 Chicago passed an ordinance refusing the registrations of all new handguns (they were now legally Banned). Only handguns that were previously registered were allowed to be renewed. And now you had to register yearly. So by now,2009, there's prolly NO legally registered handguns in Chicago, all by attrition.

Annnnd in Cook County IL, about a year ago or so now, the County Board passed an 'Assault Weapon Ban'. There was no grandfather clause. Every gun owner in Cook County, which covers Chicago, had 30 days to turn in their 'assault weapons' to the local PD to be destroyed (and you didn't get any payment for your guns either!). The *funny thing* about this Law is that basically NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT! There was one tiny paragraph about it in the Chicago Tribune I saw by pure chance. So now there's millions of 'law abiding Felons' (sarc) in Cook County (suburban Chicago) and they don't even know they are one!

And In New York City it was similar - Gun Loving Rooty (sarc) made the registration and approval process impossible for the average citizen(1). But 'The Donald'(2) and other NYC 'Celebrities' could still get their NYC gun license.

(1) a NYC FReeper lost (had to sell) all his guns thanks to Rudy's new registration requirements.
(2) Donald Trump packs heat. Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy? /s

20 posted on 05/09/2009 8:14:08 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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