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Armed citizen takes out tires as shoplifters flee
Azle news ^ | 7 May, 2009 | Gail Gilmore

Posted on 05/09/2009 5:36:40 AM PDT by marktwain

A citizen with a “concealed-carry” handgun license shot out a tire on a car full of fleeing shoplifters, then followed them in his own vehicle Wednesday morning, helping Azle police apprehend four people who were subsequently charged with robbery.

Police officers from at least three agencies caught up with everyone in a neighborhood behind Allsup’s convenience store off Highway 199 west of Azle.

Four accused shoplifters had been spotted by employees of Albertsons grocery store and were attempting a getaway with less than $50 worth of miscellaneous items when they were spotted by a citizen in the parking lot. The citizen was carrying a properly licensed concealed weapon, Azle police chief Steve Myers said Wednesday afternoon.

The fleeing driver seemed to be headed straight for the citizen, who fired at the vehicle, striking a front tire.

Another citizen called 911 and reported “an undercover officer shooting at someone who tried to run him down,” Myers said.

That “undercover officer”, it was later discovered, was the armed citizen, Myers said. Both the caller and the “shooter” remained unidentified by police in the interest of their safety.

However, the man with the handgun got in a pickup and followed the suspect vehicle, which could no longer be driven by the time it arrived in the neighborhood, Myers said.

“I guess they thought they could turn off the highway and get lost out in the county,” he said.

However, that area is made up of just a few interconnected streets, with no other way out besides the highway, he said.

Arrested were Michael Reiser, 38, of San Angelo; Kyle Scott, 21 of Fort Worth; Jennifer Jeffrey, 35, of San Angelo; and Tami Mickey, 32, of Fort Worth.

Three of the four were apprehended at the vehicle by Azle police in the 400 block of Oakwood Street. Reiser, the driver, was caught by Azle officer Chris Negrete and a DPS trooper about 30 minutes later in the 1600 block of Willowwood Drive.

Both are off of Pearson Lane, north of the highway.

The four reportedly discarded the shoplifted items as they drove from the scene.

They will be charged with robbery, a felony, instead of shoplifting, a misdemeanor, because the car was used as a deadly weapon in their escape, Myers said.

Albertson’s is in Tarrant County, so charges will be filed with the Tarrant County District Attorney’s office even though the suspects were caught in Parker County. Azle police, Parker County Sheriff’s deputies and at least two Department of Public Safety troopers helped in the chase, Myers said.

The chief has mixed feelings about the help officers received from an armed citizen.

“Our concern in a situation like that is the number of people in the immediate vicinity of an individual who don’t have a way to know who or what he is,” Myers said.

“A uniformed officer is easily identifiable. But the public doesn’t know who (a citizen with a handgun) is, or how to help.”

On the other hand, this particular citizen did choose the most restrained use of his weapon, firing only at the tires of the vehicle and ultimately helping catch a car full of suspects.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
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This is a good lesson to criminals. Crime is a very risky activity. Threatening others with death or great bodily harm is even more risky. It is not worth risking your life to steal $50 dollars.
1 posted on 05/09/2009 5:36:41 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Pulling a Clint Eastwood on shoplifters isn’t a real smart move.


2 posted on 05/09/2009 5:41:05 AM PDT by ex91B10
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"The chief has mixed feelings about the help officers received from an armed citizen."

Then the chief is not a chief, but a plebe.

3 posted on 05/09/2009 5:44:35 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: marktwain

This time it worked. Next time, maybe not.


4 posted on 05/09/2009 5:46:44 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: ex91B10

On the contrary. Maybe those four will think twice about robbery when they get out of jail and consider that private citizens in this country are often armed.

Meanwhile, the Chief should be happy he got the help and stop whinning.


5 posted on 05/09/2009 5:47:20 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: ex91B10

Per the article, he fired when they tried to run him down with the car.


6 posted on 05/09/2009 5:48:17 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: marktwain

Shot out a tire...man, I thought that only worked in the movies. Good on him!


7 posted on 05/09/2009 5:50:35 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: marktwain
During the pursuit, police confirmed a number of items were discarded from the suspects’ vehicle, including a package of Pop Tarts Toaster Pastries and Q-tips.

From a different story about the incident.

Azle Pop Tart heist goes awry

Four "adults" and they don't have enough cash to buy Pop Tarts and Q-Tips?

8 posted on 05/09/2009 5:52:14 AM PDT by csvset
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To: marktwain
Interesting: Since they tried to run him down with their vehicle, their crime turned into a felony. That makes him discharging his weapon legal

So I wonder, if he just fired at their tires if they didn't try to run him down, would he have committed a crime?

9 posted on 05/09/2009 6:03:51 AM PDT by Popman (Only one question remains: Does the sun rise because of Obama or does Obama rise because of the sun)
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To: ex91B10
The state of Michigan, where I live, just announced the layoff of 100 Michigan state police officers. I believe this will become a pattern nationwide.

Every American citizen had better realize where we as a nation are. No government, state or federal can protect anyone. It's time for Americans to take control of their own lives and do the right thing to stop all crime. That would include crimes by any government entity.

10 posted on 05/09/2009 6:04:40 AM PDT by exnavy (I'll keep my God and my guns, the dems can keep the change.)
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To: bgill

But from your a post from MExico, it needs to come back around to citizens defending each other. In Mexico City, no one is armed, some police don’t even bear arms, and crime and resisting criminals...is hardly known.


11 posted on 05/09/2009 6:07:47 AM PDT by rovenstinez (...)
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To: marktwain
I'm glad the good guys won. I am also glad neither me nor my loved ones were downrange from the shooter. Shooting out the tires on a fleeing felon's car is good movie stuff but a poor decision in real life.

Bullets sometimes do funny things once they've left the barrel.

12 posted on 05/09/2009 6:08:43 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ( O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Asinine Mistake, America)
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To: Popman

Texas law states that if you are in fear of your life, you are justified in using deadly force. If this car was trying to run him down, he could have shot the driver. But everytime you discharge your weapon, you will come under law enforcement scrutiny, so you have to take that decision very seriously. Conceal carry is for that purpose.


13 posted on 05/09/2009 6:09:47 AM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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The state of Michigan, where I live, just announced the layoff of 100 Michigan state police officers

That just means we will be able to drive a little faster on the freeway........

14 posted on 05/09/2009 6:18:44 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun in an Indy car....)
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To: marktwain
Unfortunately many of these thugs don't care about their own and think it's worth taking a life for $50 dollars!

Happens all the time, then we find out the piece of trash has a criminal record that shows they should never have been released to start with and should have been put down instead.
15 posted on 05/09/2009 6:21:00 AM PDT by Radio Free American? (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: exnavy; Popman

I’m happy about the outcome but from what I know as an armed citizen, by law, you can only use deadly force until the threat is stopped if your life is threatened. So shooting at the driver during the confrontation is justified in this case but shooting out the tires of a fleeing vehicle is outside that definition.

Again, I’m glad the perps were arrested but at the same time I fear the liberal government will use cases like this as justification to further restrict our rights.

Exnavy, Michigan is the canary in the coal mine for what’s happening in this country.


16 posted on 05/09/2009 6:26:27 AM PDT by b359 (The goat is old and gnarly....)
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To: muir_redwoods

I wouldn’t have done it with my little .380 that’s for sure. Could have ricocheted off the rim and killed some bystander. I’d say the guy should get a B in headwork as the navy saying goes.


17 posted on 05/09/2009 6:27:44 AM PDT by LDO4CNO
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To: marktwain

This could have turned out badly for the shooter if someone in the vehicle would have been shot or killed.

This could have been a black eye in the news media for responsible CCW permit holders.


18 posted on 05/09/2009 6:28:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: muir_redwoods
“Bullets sometimes do funny things once they've left the barrel.”

Excellent point.

A parking lot full of shoppers and all it takes is a ricochet or a bullet fragment to hit one of those citizens and the shooter would find himself at the gray bar hotel.

19 posted on 05/09/2009 6:32:33 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: marktwain

I thin crime is getting more risky by the day. I live in a neighborhood filled with retired military, active duty military, deputy sheriffs and police officers. Just by talking with a lot of my neighbors, I suspect there are approximately 3-4 guns per resident in the neighborhood. Not a good place to practice crime.


20 posted on 05/09/2009 6:33:44 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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