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Controversial math textbooks adopted by Seattle schools
Seattle PI ^ | 5/7/09 | NICK EATON

Posted on 05/07/2009 5:23:52 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

Seattle public high schools this fall will use new math textbooks that have stirred controversy for their less-traditional teaching methods.

The Seattle Public Schools Board of Directors on Wednesday put an end to what have come to be known as the "math wars," approving a school district committee's recommendation for high school math textbooks in a 4-3 vote.

"We really see this as Step 1," said Anna-Maria de la Fuente, the district's K-12 mathematics coordinator. "The hard work is really coming."

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.com ...


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1 posted on 05/07/2009 5:23:52 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Key Curriculum materials are widely used by homeschoolers. It’s the only way any of my kids have learned fractions. Maybe this will prove to be a good idea for Seattle.


2 posted on 05/07/2009 5:26:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Modern educators.... the enemies of civilization.

It’s very important to the govt hat no one know the difference between a billion and a trillion. Just pay up, slave.


3 posted on 05/07/2009 5:27:02 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Seattle? Did they bother to check with Texas law and the Texas State Board of Education? Seattle?


4 posted on 05/07/2009 5:30:21 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I think it is a great way to learn math. I am unsure why you are against this.


5 posted on 05/07/2009 5:30:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: anniegetyourgun
The hard work is really coming."

The hard part is convincing the future employer that although junior can't perform he is still an asset because he FEELS like he is performing.

6 posted on 05/07/2009 5:31:53 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I hate this curriculum...my kids used it in a Georgia pilot program...the result...a summer spent teaching the kids real math...when we arrived in the Mid West...we needed tutors for the kids. The Mid West schools are excellent (blue state), the Georgia schools were awful (red state). I can’t figure out why this is true...but it is. I think part of it is the constant attempt to improve schools in Georgia leads to stupid programs that don’t work.

Direct instruction (similar to what we had in the 60’s before the libs took education over) is the most successful of all curricula in all subjects but is often rejected as being not creative enough...such nonsense. Creativity comes from a thorough knowledge of a subject and nothing else.

I taught math from Algebra I to Calculus in a number of High Schools. The first thing I did every year in Algebra was to give a test on the multiplication tables...a fair number of kids did not know them...thus the first weeks of Algebra were spent teaching this and other basics which are critical in higher math.


7 posted on 05/07/2009 5:32:12 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: anniegetyourgun; metmom
Well...we used Miquon Math in the early grades. It operates on the same principle as the Key Curriculum. My two older kids did very well with it. The two younger ones did not do as well with the inductive approach and we switched to other things earlier than we did with the others. For middle and high school we used Saxon.

I think, like any curriculum, this will be great for some kids and not so much for others. Too bad we can't tailor education for individual learning styles.

8 posted on 05/07/2009 5:34:50 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: anniegetyourgun
In a nutshell, the series focuses on helping students uncover math concepts on their own instead of laying out rules for memorization.

Oh yeah, that's just awful!

9 posted on 05/07/2009 5:37:26 AM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: Tax-chick

My commentary isn’t on the curriculum per se, it’s the fact that government schools are government experiments. They have proven to fail. Good on homeschoolers who refuse to submit their children to the government schools.


10 posted on 05/07/2009 5:37:34 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Oh, I see! I agree with you!

It appears some posters find the Key Curriculum texts effective, and others don’t. This is, of course, what Real Life, as opposed to a government institution, is like! I haven’t tried them for high-school math, only for arithmetic and basic algebra.


11 posted on 05/07/2009 5:40:18 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: anniegetyourgun
For folks who want the details. Loads kinda slow.

The city picked the lowest rated textbook. It was also not recommended.

12 posted on 05/07/2009 5:41:28 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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13 posted on 05/07/2009 5:43:48 AM PDT by sionnsar ((Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: nyconse

Are you implying that schools are bad because this is a “red” state (you are)

I think you need to take a course in logic!

“Key to” are good little sets for helping learn a certain kind of problem in mathematics http://www.keypress.com/x6469.xml

But the full curriculum....I have no idea.


14 posted on 05/07/2009 5:43:57 AM PDT by DeLaine (If love were oil, I'd be a quart low)
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To: anniegetyourgun; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Self appointed intellectuals often say that “War is too important to be left to the generals”. I say that EDUCATION is too important to be left to “EDUCATORS”.
For generations, American children were taught and educated so successfully that their country rose to heights unknown in history. Math, Geography, Literature, Science, Medicine.
People my age (74) were taught in such a way that 50 years out of school, we STILL knew what old fashioned teachers had pounded into our little heads. The key word is TEACHERS.
Now we have EDUCATORS, trying to justify their salaries by dreaming up new schemes that — surprise — don’t work.
We have students that can’t add, can’t find their country on a world map, can’t locate their home state on a globe, can’t spell, can’t write, yet are buttressed by a great supply of “self esteem”.
Last year, when I heard a “bright” 20 something young person express horror because the Russians had invaded Georgia and he was really concerned for the poor people in Atlanta, I saw finally where “education” was leading us.
It has always been said that these “graduates are our future”. Out future is screwed.


15 posted on 05/07/2009 5:45:35 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views)
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To: Zeppelin

It is awful...most students can learn facts and processes. Few students have the ability to understand abstract math principles much less uncover such concepts themselves. It is appropriate at the high school level in upper math courses, but not in the lower grades. Many students will never understand the math concepts and will not have learned facts either. This program does not work.


16 posted on 05/07/2009 5:47:04 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: aberaussie
I know this is a fantasy, but what I would like to see is a series of math lessons on DVD. I've seen products for home schoolers that were fabulous.

Basically, an extremely good teacher stands in front of a room and explains the concepts, breaks down a few examples and shows students how to work through the problems. It's not rocket science. A series of lessons, based on a single mathematical approach, could take a child from basic arithmetic up through calculus. The child would never be faced with a teacher who tsks: "No, no, no! You don't do fractions that way! Who taught you that?? No wonder you're failing my class. Well, try to pick it up as we move along."

Now, since different people learn differently, there could be half a dozen different math series (all K-12), if your child is a visual learner, use series A, if your child likes inductive reasoning, use series B, if your child likes manipulative, use series C.

You went on vacation? You got sick? You missed that lesson, or you want to see it again? Not a problem -- the disk is in that cabinet: you can watch it any time, if you think it will help you.

How much would it cost to nationalize this curriculum and keep it in place for 30 years? Parents would say to kids: "Have you seen Mr. Smith work out the volume of a cylinder? Boy! My friends and I were on the floor with the joke he makes at the end! I still remember how to solve that problem just because he made me laugh. When you see it, let me know: it's great!"

Of course, nowadays, parents often have trouble helping kids with homework because -- apparently -- the facts of math have changed radically since the parent went to school.

Get a great teacher. Film great lessons. Maintain that curriculum for decades, making necessary changes as they are identified, but not altering any educational philosophy. Math skills would increase greatly, and the costs would be far less.

Human math teachers might still be employed in a school district (fewer though) if they seemed useful, but endless lecturing to classes of 30 bored kids would not be part of the job description.

17 posted on 05/07/2009 5:48:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: anniegetyourgun

It’s funny how educators jump on the newest, latest idea that is going to fix everything. When you pin them down (I have practice on this), they will admit that schooling was better 30 years ago, but refuse to re-institute the policies that made it that way. I think today’s system does benefit a few at the top, but most are left far behind. Maybe we should consider some discipline, some basic learning (memorization-— horrors!!), some repetition, and actual teaching of basic skills rather than sensitivity training, etc...

hh


18 posted on 05/07/2009 5:49:50 AM PDT by hoosier hick ((I'm back to..) Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo. (Barry Goldwater))
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To: anniegetyourgun

Government Schools are not failed institutions. We have failed to recognize them as Political Indoctrination Centers. Our current state of government has proved that that part of the experiment is working in full force.


19 posted on 05/07/2009 5:51:14 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Discovering has a progressive, egalitarian focus," said Costello, the mother of a freshman at Nathan Hale High School. "The direction is to teach both ideas and skills."

Liberalism is truly a sickness...

20 posted on 05/07/2009 5:52:57 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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