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CONFIRMED - "80 M/yr old" fossil yeilds REAL Dino DNA
http://www.genomeweb.com/proteomics/team-sequenced-proteins-t-rex-now-sequences-hadrosaur?emc=el&m=380314&l=9&v=1771019082 ^

Posted on 05/06/2009 8:40:47 PM PDT by BereanBrain

http://www.genomeweb.com/proteomics/team-sequenced-proteins-t-rex-now-sequences-hadrosaur?emc=el&m=380314&l=9&v=1771019082


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Seems that the testing reported here RULES OUT contamination......

So guys who belive in 3.5B Year old earth, and 80 M/yr dinos - you now have no choice but to close your eyes and swallow the Assertion that unfrozen protein can hang around for 80 Million years, or the dating MAY be wrong after all......

What's your poison, Maybe the 80 Million years is wrong, or DNA analysis is total junk science.

Personally, I believe DNA is good, hard science, and Paleo dating is a junk science.

Get the popcorn ready - the battle of the Ph.D's is about to begin!

My money is on the organic chemists (DNA guys)

1 posted on 05/06/2009 8:40:47 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Protein != DNA.


2 posted on 05/06/2009 8:43:18 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: BereanBrain

I don’t understand why this challenges dating technology?


3 posted on 05/06/2009 8:45:12 PM PDT by fso301
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To: coloradan

in case you didn’t read the article, the SEQUENCED the DNA


4 posted on 05/06/2009 8:46:52 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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Ok. So... organic material can last 80 million years! Wow! Who knew!

Frankly, I think organic material can last only a relatively short period of time (10,000 years at best). So how does that DNA compare to the GEICO lizard?

5 posted on 05/06/2009 8:47:26 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: BereanBrain

Jurassic park here we come!


6 posted on 05/06/2009 8:47:39 PM PDT by wombtotomb ( ITS NOT ABOUT RIGHT VERSUS LEFT, ITS ABOUT RIGHT VERSES WRONG!)
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To: BereanBrain

oh I thought this was going to talk about cloning the T-Rex


7 posted on 05/06/2009 8:47:47 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: BereanBrain

T-Rex...tastes like chicken.


8 posted on 05/06/2009 8:49:08 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: BereanBrain

I just want to know how long before we can clone some up. Bet they taste like chicken ;-)


9 posted on 05/06/2009 8:52:20 PM PDT by bigbob
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Yup NO way proteins can be preserved for millions of years.....
10 posted on 05/06/2009 8:53:01 PM PDT by Kozak (e)
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To: Reaganesque
KFC will have to expand there restaurants!
11 posted on 05/06/2009 8:53:24 PM PDT by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: fso301

real simple.

Say I just found an Ice cream cone setting on my counter.
It had melted a little bit, but wasn’t

1) a puddle
2) a mass of scum after weeks of decay
3) a mere stain after the scum dried up
4) the minearlized remains of what was at one time, a stain.

Its not reasonable to assume the ice cream cone has been there for years.....so if somebody claims the ice cream has been on the counter for years, clearly known processes at work point to minutes instead of years....


12 posted on 05/06/2009 8:54:47 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BigCinBigD

Think of the size of the new buckets!! Yikes!!!


13 posted on 05/06/2009 8:54:58 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Kozak

Stange -— looks EXACTLY like a Fly, in EXACTLY like Amber.

So how DID you date the Fly?

And PS, the multiple dino protein finds were NOT in amber, just plain old room temperture rock/sediments.


14 posted on 05/06/2009 8:57:52 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Reaganesque; bigbob
Dinochicken
15 posted on 05/06/2009 9:00:11 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Kozak

LOL!!!!!


16 posted on 05/06/2009 9:00:21 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: BereanBrain

http://snakefly.tripod.com/Stephanie.html


17 posted on 05/06/2009 9:03:23 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: BereanBrain

I gathered that. Protein is a polymer of (different) amino acids. Which are a lot more labile (reactive) than the polymers of deoxy-nucleotides, DNA. DNA is almost bulletproof, the deoxygenation of the nucleotides (the D in DNA) makes them very unreactive, compared with RNA in which the nucleotides still have those certain oxygens. (Both DNA and RNA have other oxygens.) If the message written in RNA is like a message on paper, the message written in DNA is written in stone - or maybe titanium carbide.


18 posted on 05/06/2009 9:03:36 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: BereanBrain

They call them evolosers for a reason...


19 posted on 05/06/2009 9:03:41 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Kozak

Not that conventional science could ever be wrong, in fact they were pranked by something as simple as a few pig bones cooked in a beaker - FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/hoax/


20 posted on 05/06/2009 9:05:01 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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