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Hoping Obama's place of birth truly was in Hawaii
The Victoria Advocate ^ | May 5, 2009 | Peter Aparicio

Posted on 05/06/2009 7:47:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I hope I am proven wrong.

I hope for the sake of our country that I and many other concerned citizens across the country are looked upon as well-intentioned but ultimately misguided individuals who chased a bad rumor based on lies and distortions.

The reason I hope to be thought wrong (although well-intentioned) is because the price of being right about the constitutional requirements to be president not being met by the current occupant of the Oval Office is too disturbing to be imagined.

If, in fact, Barack Obama does not meet the requirements set out by the U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section I, it would throw this country into a constitutional crisis. Vice President Joe Biden would, obviously, become President Biden. The harrowing part of this taking place is that every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.

Full-moon time? I know, I know; I sound like a raving lunatic. So where do I draw my conclusions that this is even a valid issue to entertain?

Let's review what's been accepted as "fact" by the mainstream press and the vast majority of Americans: Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Stanley Ann Dunham, 18, and Barack Obama Sr., 25.

Now let's look at some of the questions challenging these accepted "facts":

Concerned citizens across the United States since well before the November election have questioned Barack Obama's "natural born" qualification for the presidency. From sea to shining sea, at least 18 lawsuits with plaintiffs including a former presidential candidate, a former deputy attorney general, state legislators and retired and active duty members of the military, are attempting to compel him to verify his citizenship.

Candidate Obama's own Web site, fightthesmears.com, posted a "Certification of Live Birth," which, according to the Web site, proves that Obama is in fact a natural born U.S. citizen. What the Web site won't tell you, however, is that a "Certification of Live Birth" is not a birth certificate, and that at the time, the state of Hawaii allowed foreign-born children of U.S. citizens (Stanley Ann Dunham) to have their births registered with this document based on a statement of only one relative. The obvious question must be asked: If Obama has an original "long form" birth certificate issued on the day of his birth by the state of Hawaii, why would he also have a "Certification of Live Birth"? It would not be necessary. Critics have called upon President Obama to just give the state of Hawaii his permission to release his original "long form" birth certificate. The "long form" birth certificate would include all the pertinent information about his birth: name of the hospital, name and signature of the attending physician and a seal of the Hawaiian Health Department. This simple action by President Obama would immediately end all speculation about his citizenship and the reasons for the various lawsuits. Instead, President Obama is spending time and money hiring lawyers to fight these lawsuits. Why?

Why doesn't the mainstream press cover these lawsuits? I mean, in 2004, Dan Rather did a bang up job covering something a lot less important. Rather had "authentic" memos critical of President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard service record. Yet there are some legitimate questions about the constitutional eligibility of our president, and yet not one single major press outlet is covering it. Part of the reason is that this issue has supposedly settled by the independent authority on Obama's birth certificate, FactCheck.org. Yet on their Web site, FactCheck.org states:

"The document is a 'certification of birth,' also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response."

So the independent authority on this question has admitted that they have not seen the original long-form birth certificate. And the questions remain.

I sincerely hope that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, in 1961 and therefore meets the constitutional requirements to be president. If not, our Constitution must be followed and procedures put in place for future elections wherein all candidates on the ballot must prove they meet the requirements set forth by the law of the land, the U.S. Constitution.

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Peter Aparicio is a resident of Victoria and a government teacher at Memorial High School.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: akaobama; bho2009; bho44; biden; birthcertificate; bo; certifigate; choomgang; colb; constitution; foreignborn; hawaii; illegitmate; kenya; obama; obamatruthfile; unconstitutional; usurper
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To: altura
I would rather have Biden. He’s an idiot but nobody worships him.

LOL! I agree. And at least he's an American. (I don't know of any other country that would claim him)

101 posted on 05/06/2009 9:28:43 PM PDT by silent_jonny ("... in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye ..." 1 Corinthians, Chapter 15)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Vice President Joe Biden would, obviously, become President Biden.

Not so, do a little research.

102 posted on 05/06/2009 9:29:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; RushIsMyTeddyBear
The left and their ilk believe in rule by fiat. Laws they make, then tend to supersede established legislation they do not wish to observe. This includes the Constitution. They do have a problem.

Article II Section 1 of the Constitution.
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office,he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Now as to "natural born citizen"- that is the question. If the gentleman is not and I hope for the well being of America that he is, the Constitution will hang him (figuratively speaking of course).

103 posted on 05/06/2009 9:31:58 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.

Including selecting Joe Biden as VP. OmyGod that means Nancy Pelosi is...AGGHHHH!

104 posted on 05/06/2009 9:32:16 PM PDT by 386wt (Striving to be as good as my dog thinks I am.)
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To: tioga

Shoot! If they had, they’d be in the same cave with the
birth certificate! Waste of paper!


105 posted on 05/06/2009 9:33:47 PM PDT by luvie (Zero is dumb as a rock (dangerously so))
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To: itsahoot; 2ndDivisionVet
Not so, do a little research.

You got that right. The election would be voided, all appointments dismissed and all executive orders and laws signed rescinded.

In short, a Constitutional Crisis.
106 posted on 05/06/2009 9:34:14 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: atomicweeder

So He’s Barry Dunham or Barry Davis.
The main issue then is the leader of the socialist west and holder of the nuclear codes, we don’t even know his real name, or seen his grades or thesis.


107 posted on 05/06/2009 9:35:02 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott government communist tractor factories!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The harrowing pleasing part of this taking place is that every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.

There. Fixed it.

108 posted on 05/06/2009 9:41:41 PM PDT by kara2008 (Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem)
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To: Blado

“Personally I suspect the little bastard’s father was really Frank Marshal Davis, and that’s why he’s hiding the evidence.”

I think that’s a possibility. I mean why else would william ayers even have an inkling of interest in little barry?


109 posted on 05/06/2009 9:45:18 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (If a muslim contracts swine flu, does he still get his 72 virgins?)
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To: MHGinTN; Polarik; The Brush

Be patient everyone. They’re almost finished aging the forgery and it will be “discovered” shortly.


110 posted on 05/06/2009 9:46:19 PM PDT by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: Doogle
“..isn't it the responsibility of the DNC to insure all certificates in question meet eligibility?”

HA!

This is the same DNC that strives to allow felons, dead people, small children, pets, and illegal aliens to have multiple votes in an election.

111 posted on 05/06/2009 9:48:17 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (If a muslim contracts swine flu, does he still get his 72 virgins?)
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To: valkyry1

Who says the Devil has a conscience?


112 posted on 05/06/2009 9:50:25 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Irish Eyes

I agree. Especially when he speaks. His gestures, body movements, cadence, and rhetorical style are more like Malcolm X than anyone else. Putting aside his ideology, Malcolm X was a charismatic speaker.

Personally, I think Obama sounds more like the “halting, stuttering” manner of speaking of ... Frank Costanza.


113 posted on 05/06/2009 9:52:02 PM PDT by Cincinna (OBAMA "OH YES! I'M THE GREAT PRETENDER")
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To: Irish Eyes
Took me forever to re-find these:

+ = also

114 posted on 05/06/2009 9:57:42 PM PDT by txhurl (fish are fixin' to fear me....)
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To: 386wt

Not so as Pelousi signed off on the paperwork verifying Jr was eligible. She would also go down as “fruit of the tainted tree”


115 posted on 05/06/2009 10:02:23 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: Cincinna; The Brush

He’s neither Christian nor atheist.

He’s a muslim.

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof that was published in the NY Slimes, 0bama recited the muslim call to prayer, the adhan, “with a first-class [arabic] accent.”

The opening lines of the adhan (azaan) is the shahada:

“allah is supreme! allah is supreme!
allah is supreme! allah is supreme!
I witness that there is no god but allah
I witness that there is no god but allah
I witness that muhammad is his prophet... “

And according to islamic scholars, the reciting of the shahada, (muslim declaration of faith) makes one a muslim.


116 posted on 05/06/2009 10:03:42 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (If a muslim contracts swine flu, does he still get his 72 virgins?)
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To: 386wt
>>>...every appointment made, every piece of legislation signed, and every executive order issued by Barack Obama could, and should, be considered invalid.

Including selecting Joe Biden as VP.

False. Regardless of party nominations, as a matter of law Obama did not appoint Biden. He was chosen by the Electoral College.

117 posted on 05/06/2009 10:09:19 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: txhurl

118 posted on 05/06/2009 10:09:37 PM PDT by txhurl (fish are fixin' to fear me....)
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To: Cincinna

It is much more likely that the president believes release of his BC will be politically damaging than it is that he was not a natural born citizen. Perhaps he was sired by someone other than his stated “father” or that he was, indeed, listed as a muslim child. Maybe his father was merely listed as unknown, rendering him a true bastard (not something a politician wishes to get out)! If, however, the BC proves he was born outside the country to an unwed American woman, many will yawn and say “so what?”!


119 posted on 05/06/2009 10:13:22 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: txhurl

120 posted on 05/06/2009 10:16:05 PM PDT by txhurl (fish are fixin' to fear me....)
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