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'I thought I was going to get killed' [Montana]
Ravalli Republic.com ^ | 5 May, 2009 | PERRY BACKUS

Posted on 05/06/2009 4:20:49 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain
"According to Blakeley, it took about 10 minutes for the officers to realize they had made a mistake. They released him."

Too late.

Had this happened to me, just as related?
The LEOs hierarchy and government directly above would be given 2 choices:
1) GIVE me the name or names of the complainants
-or-
2) A massive lawsuit for violating any number of my rights forthcoming immediately, all the way to the federal level if need be.
Period.

BTW mark, perhaps you could list the state this happened. I've no idea where this place is located.

41 posted on 05/06/2009 7:30:40 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: marktwain

Sound like transplants. What is his point of shooting starling birds and killing them with his pellet gun? He wasn’t going to eat the starlings he just wanted to kill them? What an idiot the guy is.


42 posted on 05/06/2009 7:32:44 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Landru

It’s in the brackets at the top of the headline on this thread.
[Montana]


43 posted on 05/06/2009 7:34:09 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: bamahead

The guy is lucky he wasn’t shot 15 times(out of 162,799 shots fired).


44 posted on 05/06/2009 7:34:40 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
45 posted on 05/06/2009 7:37:10 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Great story.


46 posted on 05/06/2009 7:37:15 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: RandallFlagg
Thanks Randall, sorry mark. ;^)
Wasn't wearing my glasses, just caught the headline.
Put 'em on for my reply, by then the response had in my mind been written.

Timing's everything. :^)

47 posted on 05/06/2009 7:43:05 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Nice story man!

I got a gun question for the Freepers... I was talking to my next door neighbor (an older woman in her 70s) yesterday... and she "happened" to mention that she has a 38...

I asked her a couple of questions about it because we share a common wall... and apparently, she hasn't fired it for several years. It is loaded because she is afraid of creeps.

And that is all fine and good... but I'm not too sure if it is a good idea to keep the gun loaded over the years and not test fire it or at least clean the gun out once in a while. So is my concerns valid and how do I broach this subject without offending her?

She is a good person... but dammit... she actually voted for OBAMA! believe it or not.

48 posted on 05/06/2009 7:43:14 AM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: bamahead

Bump!


49 posted on 05/06/2009 8:01:30 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: John123

A smart owner would (1) learn how to use a firearm, first and then (2) clean it at least 1-2 times a year.

Solution, invite your neighbor to the range, after offering to show her how to clean her pistol.

Everyone wins.

She gets (1) a safe gun, (2) learns how to protect herself and (3) probably has some fun.

You/we get one more person who better understands firearms for personal protection.

If you can’t do I’m sure there’s someone from a local gun club/range who’d be happy to help.


50 posted on 05/06/2009 8:03:44 AM PDT by BFM (CLINTON is and always will be a rapist. Never forget!)
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To: John123
Owns a gun AND keeps it loaded BUT doesn't test or maintain it AND voted for Nobama.

My friend, your neighbor is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

51 posted on 05/06/2009 8:12:38 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Frantzie

I did that when I was young.

Dad and I would go out around the sheds and spotlight them with a flashlight and shoot them with .22 pellets. Mostly I shot though - he held the light.

First off they are damaging type birds. Not “clean” birds like Robbins and the like. They make a mess (starlings, barn swallows in particular), they damage the overhangs on the sheds as well by pecking at the wood while nest building, they would often get into the grain bags if they were stored inside and try to peck them open to get the seed out and they are a general pain in the butt when it comes to breeding as once they establish in the area its hard to get them to stop coming back.

They also tend to run off the “clean” birds that you might find in the old barns like the Robbins as well as they will try to harm Owls if they are in a significant number. We liked Owls, beyond being very nice to look at they kept the mice down. So theres plenty of reasons for the removal of what really amounts to “pests”. People do the same with rodents all the time, its no different. I doubt many people would consider eating a mouse either. Its just not practical.

Anyway, the point is, theres plenty of reasons to remove them from the area. They don’t scare to easy though so shooting them is about the best solution one has.

We did have a cat though. Several actually over the years - their job was to keep the mice out. But there were no mice really (probably because of the Owls) - however with the bird removal once a week they were very well fed cats: so the starlings didn’t go to waste in most cases in our instance.

I’m sure the rational was the same for the MT guy above. Damage prevention, population control, possible neighbor or owner cats to eat the byproduct of the removals.
I wouldn’t assume the worst in other words.


52 posted on 05/06/2009 8:12:44 AM PDT by midmoschmo
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To: Frantzie
> What is his point of shooting starling birds and killing them

Starlings are an invasive species in the U.S. -- brought here in the 1890s by a group that thought it would be a good idea to introduce in this country all the birds mentioned by Shakespeare.

53 posted on 05/06/2009 8:17:05 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: marktwain
My opinion....the PD is lying. Anytime you get a report of a man pointing a gun, you get the name and information of the person reporting it. It's not rocket science. Unfortunately, it will take a few cops getting shot to fix this problem because innocent people getting shot by cops is considered part of the game.

A few years ago here in the Charlotte NC area, we had a cop kill a telephone maintenance worker who was in an equipment room just doing his job. It was caused when an idiot homeowner called police and told them a suspicious vehicle was at the equipment house and it shouldn't be there. The police apparently never bothered to ask this person how they know who should and should not be there. They just took their word for it. When the LE's got there, they went full out Rambo and entered the building (which only had one entrance). The worker couldn't hear anything because of the equipment noise but saw someone enter and drew his gun. The rest is history and the office, nor the homeowner, were ever charged. The worker was clearly murdered.

54 posted on 05/06/2009 8:20:54 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I am an extremist that was created by Butch Napolitano.)
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To: super7man
Need some suggestions on how to get a fair shake when we move in next door to you with our two big dogs, 8 rifles, 9 hand guns, and 20,000 rounds of ammunition. Oh, my wife makes a great lemon meringue pie, too. Thoughts?Get to know your neighbors. Remember you've moved to Rome. So when in Rome...
55 posted on 05/06/2009 8:25:24 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Considering it was a 12 year old who had been left alone in her house the parents need to answer something fierce, such as a nice fine of about $1,000 and restitution to my co-worker of another $1,000. That might lead to the parents taking control of their child. It seems she hs done this before.


56 posted on 05/06/2009 8:34:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

Kid needs her ass beet with a willow switch.


57 posted on 05/06/2009 8:37:44 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

great story.


58 posted on 05/06/2009 8:42:32 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Gilbo_3; tx_eggman
us ignerunt common folk cant be expected to tell the difference between public SERVANTS and everyday folks...

That's just it... there's not SUPPOSED to be a difference. Law enforcement officers are still civilians. The general civilian is supposed to have all the rights and privileges of any law enforcement official, including the right to arrest someone, if necessary. The United States has forgotten the ... government of the people, by the people, for the people... clause. Even military rights are derived from the rights of citizens.
59 posted on 05/06/2009 8:43:11 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves)
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To: super7man
We are California natives and can't wait to get out of here. We have about three years to go. Need some suggestions on how to get a fair shake when we move in next door to you with our two big dogs, 8 rifles, 9 hand guns, and 20,000 rounds of ammunition

Just explain that you are patriotic conservative refugees from California looking for a place where sanity reigns and that you never intend to vote the way a typical Californian votes. Oh, and don't offer any pointers on BBQ to anyone under ANY circumstances for about 10 years. ;)

60 posted on 05/06/2009 8:46:47 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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