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The States Can Do It. They can restore the Constitution
Sterling H. Saunders | May 5, 2009 | Sterling H. Saunders

Posted on 05/06/2009 2:28:07 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: John Leland 1789
Here is a decent video that helps to explain the differences: The American Form of Government
21 posted on 05/06/2009 5:22:36 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Our governor is too busy kissing liberal butts to worry about it now!


22 posted on 05/06/2009 5:29:51 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bookmark. Looks good. Gotta go to work.


23 posted on 05/06/2009 5:30:44 AM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: WesternPacific

“I believe obamarama would order the US Military to confront any state that might seriously challenge his authority. Hopefully our Military leaders would not honor his order.”

Instead, I beleive a strong chance the men in uniform will realize the illegitimacy of the present govt. and could influence any order Zero makes.


24 posted on 05/06/2009 5:39:57 AM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: Godebert
Civil uh uh...what's the word I'm lookin for, uh uh Civil, dedgummit, Civil somethin.
25 posted on 05/06/2009 5:46:51 AM PDT by servantboy777
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BFL


26 posted on 05/06/2009 5:49:44 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The State Legislatures must do three things to turn this around and they are the only ones who can do it.

Might happen in a few states, in part, but that's all.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

27 posted on 05/06/2009 6:28:12 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: John Leland 1789
a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship

Well, here we are.

28 posted on 05/06/2009 6:30:14 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Senates? Each County will have one Senator who is appointed by the County Commission. The purpose of this is three fold.
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This is state senate, right ???

In TN we have 33 state senators...

However we have 95 counties....

95 state senators ??? 3 times the cost ???

That would be a hard sell...


29 posted on 05/06/2009 6:52:28 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I agree with the legal and political thoughts in this article. However,....

There are two problems with this proposal. A claim from two-thirds of the states that a request for a particular amendment is the same of a normal proposal of an amendment, is defeated by the express language of the Fifth Amendment. No Court is going to accept that argument. However, the legislatures DO have the power to switch back to direct appointment of Electoral College members. But the big money interests who currently buy and sell US Senators could buy and sell state legislators by the dozen.

Congressman Billybob

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30 posted on 05/06/2009 7:50:12 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Latest book: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: Repeal The 17th

He didn’t supply one. You can send him an email at the address in Reply #2 to see if he has a web page.


31 posted on 05/06/2009 3:08:22 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

There is also a Yahoo group called Repeal the 17th Amendment if you want to join. That is where the article was submitted in the first place.


32 posted on 05/06/2009 3:15:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Think of Texas: that state has 254 counties. It’s quite possible that Tennessee and Texas could have state Senators appointed some other way. For example, Texas has 20 Councils of (local) Governments, so these councils could appoint 2 Senators apiece, giving Texas 40 Senators instead of 254. Tennessee could do something similar, if it has Councils of Governments.


33 posted on 05/06/2009 6:16:41 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Tennessee Nana

I looked it up, and discovered that Texas actually has 24 regional Councils of Governments. The idea would be that all the county commissioners of the various counties in each region would get together as one body and appoint their two state Senators. That’s how I imagine it happening, anyhow. So Texas would have 48 state Senators representing the combined county governments of 24 regions.


34 posted on 05/06/2009 7:11:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: bestintxas

Hopefully our Military leaders would not honor his order.
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They wouldn’t. Officers are not sworn to obey the CIC. They are sworn to defend the Constitution.


35 posted on 05/06/2009 7:14:10 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Here's a map of what would double as Texas's state Senatorial districts under my scheme:


36 posted on 05/06/2009 7:14:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; 11th Commandment; 17th Miss Regt; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Some interesting observations in the article and some proposed remedies; not all of which I'm sure I follow, or even agree with. Bottom line, however? I agree The States can get this done. We The People, once again, have to do our part by calling, faxing, emailing, writing and otherwise buttonholing(is that a word?) our State representatives to let them know we're fed up with the feral government and their unconstitutional ways.

Click the 10th Amendment button for articles tagged "10thamendment". A "statesrights" link is atop the forum page.



Please ~ping~ me to articles relating to the 10th Amendment/States Rights so I can engage the pinger.

I've stopped scouring threads and unilaterally adding names to the ping list, so if you want on or off the list just say so.

Additional Resources:

Tenth Amendment Chronicles Thread
Tenth Amendment Center
The Right Side of Life/State Initiatives
Find Law(Brief narrative on 10th Amendment)

CLICK HERE TO FIND YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES

37 posted on 05/06/2009 8:20:40 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Thank you so much for the ping... They definitely need to make a line in the sand (standing on the 10th Amendment). And THEN they need to pass more “repeal/reinstatement” of rights laws as was just done in Montana.

Another good place to work through is strong legislation or restoration of rights in regards to other items of commerce, and overstepping federal regulations — like agriculture (especially their plans to hurt gardeners, family, hobby and organic farming in this country), and limit food sources of the public by effectively shutting down farmer’s markets and road-side stands due to oppressive unnecessary regulations...

JMHO, on all of this. It’s the best way to reassert some of our power as WE THE PEOPLE of this nation — through our states... Others will follow examples set as well, I am SURE of it due to the sheer number of laws the states “must answer to” in regards to the Federal Gov’t. It’s good “direct action” that can also be supported by the grassroots members of the Tea Party Movement! (Hint, Hint! lOL)


38 posted on 05/06/2009 8:32:24 PM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

bfl


39 posted on 05/06/2009 8:40:49 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (To understan' the livin' you got to commune wit' da dead.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Look, if Gandhi, Tutu, Parks, King and Havel can secede by peaceful means so can we. Let FedGov start the shooting (Waco, anyone?). They can be the bad guys and we can be the victims (right out of the liberal playbook). First they ignore you, then they mock you (today) then they fight you then you win. (Gandhi) We gohn kick day azzz.
40 posted on 05/06/2009 8:51:15 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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