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Schwarzenegger says 'time for debate' on legal marijuana
Sacramento Bee ^ | , May. 5, 2009 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 05/05/2009 2:27:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Tuesday it's time for California to study whether to legalize and tax marijuana for recreational use, though he's not yet advocating for such a change.

The governor was asked about a recent Field Poll showing that 56 percent of registered voters support legalizing and taxing marijuana to raise revenues for cash-strapped California. Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, has proposed legislation that would legalize the drug for recreational use, rather than just medical purposes.

"Well, I think it's not time for that, but I think it's time for a debate," Schwarzenegger said. "I think all of those ideas of creating extra revenues, I'm always for an open debate on it. And I think we ought to study very carefully what other countries are doing that have legalized marijuana and other drugs, what effect did it have on those countries?"

He said his native Austria is revisiting some of its marijuana laws, for instance. The Austrian Parliament last year authorized medical marijuana.

"It could very well be that everyone is happy with that decision and then we could move to that," Schwarzenegger said of other nations' legalization policies. "If not, we shouldn't do it. But just because of raising revenues ... we have to be careful not to make mistakes at the same time.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cannabis; controlledsubstances; drugs; grass; haroldandkumar; leroyvillbeback; libertarian; marijuana; maryjane; pot; reefer; schwarzenegger; stoner; whitecastle; wod
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To: edcoil

That would be nearly half of CA. I thought there were only 30 million total in the state.


21 posted on 05/05/2009 2:39:47 PM PDT by svcw (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who know binary and those who don't.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Drinking alcohol is stupid but it is legal anyway.


22 posted on 05/05/2009 2:40:17 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: calcowgirl
Do they have enough confiscated weed to use to pay tax refunds?

If medical marijuana was in the form of a suppository, would anyone use it?

23 posted on 05/05/2009 2:40:42 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: calcowgirl

I found this:

“Criminalizing millions of people - nearly 10 percent of the total US population for smoking a plant is ridiculous” he says. Numerous scientific studies since President Nixon’s Shafer Commission have proved this.”

So is 10% a good number? That is 3 million people of the 30 million in CA so how much money can it really raise?

I saw it was something like a 14 billion dollar industry so California’s percentage is what, another 10% or 1.4 Billion so the numbers really seem to fall pretty flat.


24 posted on 05/05/2009 2:41:48 PM PDT by edcoil (Taxes only help an evil government)
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To: rhombus
By taxing it, they will just go from shaking down users to shaking down the retailers who sell them. Forget to carry the one or get caught selling to an underage cop plant and the State will come down on them like a ton of bricks.

The states encroachment does not go away, it just gets shifted to another segment of the population.

Besides, CA can do what they want but there are federal laws against the sale, distribution, or use of Marijuana. CA Can't stop Uncle Sam's ham fist.

25 posted on 05/05/2009 2:42:44 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: calcowgirl

Agreed. But Arnold is taking the Libs for a ride.

And if/when the Libs wake up and see the results from legalized pot leaves us WORSE than before....

Then I will tell them “I told you so” and “STFU”.


26 posted on 05/05/2009 2:42:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Responsibility2nd
This is insane.

Actually, it's hilarious - seeing Drug Warriors go into meltdown mode as the War on Marijuana collapses.

27 posted on 05/05/2009 2:44:34 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Responsibility2nd
You DO realize this is just a liberal ploy to raise taxes, right?

I don't think it's a "ploy" I think for once they're being pretty honest about it. Given a choice, I'd much rather support Gov't with taxes on the consumption of pot, booze, tobacco, etc than the usual taxes on personal productivity and income.

28 posted on 05/05/2009 2:45:13 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: spikeytx86
+ Frankly I could care less if Pot is legal or not but doesn’t California have bigger fish to fry for crying out loud!?!

I like to see the Government getting rid of laws, instead of making new ones.

29 posted on 05/05/2009 2:45:38 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: calcowgirl
I'd love to see a transcript of that debate.

-PJ

30 posted on 05/05/2009 2:45:59 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: svcw

I would rather be around someone who is stoned than someone who is drunk.

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Then you haven’t seen NHTSA studies comparing drunk vs. stoned drivers.


31 posted on 05/05/2009 2:46:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: rhombus

As would I. But I don’t recall reading where the good Governor will be offsetting this new tax with reductions in taxes elsewhere.

Look, I think Pot should be legal. At a minimum it doesn’t do anymore damage then Smoking or Drinking.

But if I was running a state that is on the verge of bankruptcy I would like to think I would have higher priorities then debating the merits of legalizing Pot.


32 posted on 05/05/2009 2:47:34 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Ken H

Arnie, you Socialist B*****d! Leave it illegal, in the free market!


33 posted on 05/05/2009 2:47:45 PM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: spikeytx86
By taxing it, they will just go from shaking down users to shaking down the retailers who sell them.

Much like they've done with alcohol and tobacco.

Besides, CA can do what they want but there are federal laws against the sale, distribution, or use of Marijuana. CA Can't stop Uncle Sam's ham fist.

Is there no support for States' Rights any more?

34 posted on 05/05/2009 2:47:55 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: Responsibility2nd
You DO realize this is just a liberal ploy to raise taxes, right?

Well, yes. That's why I prefaced my post with "all politics aside"

35 posted on 05/05/2009 2:48:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: calcowgirl

Good Ol’ aRnie

Puff Puff Puff..

Vote For MEEeeee!

Uhhh,, who am I?


36 posted on 05/05/2009 2:49:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: edcoil

I’ve never studied or followed the issue much. But I would question those figures.
If pot were legal, and you had to pay taxes to buy it, I think everyone would just put a plant in their backyard.
Presumably, they already collect taxes on rolling papers, LOL.


37 posted on 05/05/2009 2:49:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: Doe Eyes

As do I. But I also like to see states stay solvent instead of going bankrupt. He’s been Governor for around 5 years, why didn’t he fight the good fight years ago?


38 posted on 05/05/2009 2:50:04 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: spikeytx86
When the unions won't let you cut the size of Gov’t, a Governor who is supposedly legally responsible for balancing a budget generally looks to new sources of revenue. Where else would the drug warriors have him look?
39 posted on 05/05/2009 2:50:52 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus
Is there no support for States’ Rights any more?

I totally support states rights. But Uncle Sam sees it differently and since the Governor is fishing for a bailout for his state I doubt he is about to lead a crusade against Big Brother.

40 posted on 05/05/2009 2:51:33 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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