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Obama Wants $190 Billion Tax Increase on Companies
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Posted on 05/04/2009 10:07:48 AM PDT by keep your powder dry

May 4 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama proposed to raise about $190 billion over the next decade by outlawing three offshore tax-avoidance techniques used by U.S. companies such as Caterpillar Inc. and Procter & Gamble Co. He also would make it riskier for Americans to stash money in tax-haven banks.

The tax system is “full of corporate loopholes,” Obama said at the White House today, as he outlined the plan along with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. The tax proposals, which will be part of a detailed budget the administration releases later this week, would raise a total of about $210 billion over the next decade.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bho44; communism; democrats; economy; obama; socialism; spreadthewealth; taxes
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To: FromLori

dont know, but this one was yahoo... a loophole if you will...


21 posted on 05/04/2009 10:30:59 AM PDT by keep your powder dry
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To: tc45a

Your master Obama and his socialism is working great (extreme sarcasm).


22 posted on 05/04/2009 10:32:09 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Exacatly, these tax laws were written by law makers, and if they are doing it by the books, what crime are they doing? Obama should look at his cabinet, and tweek that up a bit more.


23 posted on 05/04/2009 10:34:30 AM PDT by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: keep your powder dry
Neosocialist voters are stupid. If we raise taxes on P&G, which they specifically targeted, do these parasites really think that P&G is not going to raise prices on: Febreze Air Fresheners, Old Spice, Secret, Charmin, Children's Pepto, Clearblue Easy, Dreft, Luvs, Pampers, Pampers Kandoo, Pampers UnderJams, Puffs, Duracell, Camay, Ivory, Olay, Old Spice, Safeguard, Zest, CoverGirl, Max Factor, Cascade, Dawn, Ivory, Joy, Always, Tampax, Aussie, Head & Shoulders, Herbal Essences, Infusium 23, Pantene, Clairol, Align, Braun, Clearblue Easy, Fibersure, Metamucil, Pepto-Bismol, Prilosec OTC, Vicks, Bounty, Mr. Clean, Mr. Clean AutoDry Carwash, Swiffer, Bounce, Cheer, Downy, Era, Gain, Tide, Crest, Crest Glide, Crest Whitestrips, Fixodent, Gleem, Scope, Oral-B, Bounty, Charmin, Puffs, Eukanuba, Iams, Actonel, Asacol, Didronel, Enablex, Macrobid, Macrodantin, BALDESSARINI, BOSS, BOSS SKIN, bruno banani, ESCADA, Ghost, Giorgio Beverly Hills, HUGO, LACOSTE, NAOMI CAMPBELL, PUMA, Gillette Fusion, Gillette M3Power, Gillette SatinCare, Gillette Venus, Gillette Complete Skincare, Olay, and Pringles?

They'll see the "$190B" coming in from these corporations, but the neosocialists won't see that it's really a tax on those of us with pets, shaving needs, noses and bottoms that use paper products, skin care needs, laundry, dishes, and cravings for potato chips that stack neatly. The really sad part of this tax is that the neosocialists in government and neosocialist voters see it as free money, so they don't care if it's spent wastefully. Government waste comes from the idea that the other guy pays for it, but the fact is that we can't "tax the rich". All taxes fall on the average guy.

24 posted on 05/04/2009 10:34:31 AM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: keep your powder dry
by outlawing three offshore tax-avoidance techniques used by U.S. companies such as Caterpillar Inc. and Procter & Gamble Co.

Neither one of these companies get any particular benefit from being US companies with some foreign offices and employees rather than foreign companies with some US companies and employees. It would be pretty easy for them and many other multinational companies to pull up stakes and have board meetings in Zurich.

One former advantage of being a US company was the rule of law where the government couldn't legally just pick your company out from the crowd and drive it out of business if it didn't comply with some extra-legal whims of government officials. That is no longer true (look at Oppenheimer's refusal to be a patsy for the UAW in Chrysler's bankruptcy).

25 posted on 05/04/2009 10:35:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: keep your powder dry

Loophole = freedom that accidentally survived legislative attempts to kill it.

Clinton loved talking about loopholes for some reason. Perhaps because they matched the zipper on his trousers.


26 posted on 05/04/2009 10:35:56 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Dick Bachert

But WHY THE HELL AREN’T ALL THE PUBBIES SCREAMING FROM THE HOUSE TOPS THAT “CORPORATIONS AND BUSINESSES DO NOT PAY TAXES, THEY COLLECT THEM FROM THEIR CUSTOMERS, SHAREHOLDERS OR EMPLOYEES AND REMIT THEM TO (FANFARE HERE) THE GOVERNMENT!!!!”

Becuase the current batch of republicans or GOP (Geezers Of Politics) have no spine and wouldn’t know how to use one if they had one. Hello, fella, the rules of the game has changed and you are clearly not on the same page of the playbook. They are letting the bloodletting happen because they think that when hell comes THEN they can step up and take over. They need to be complete and utter pains in the rears of the left at every step we take toward hell.


27 posted on 05/04/2009 10:36:44 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Hitler had VW, I guess Obama chose Chrysler.)
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To: yldstrk
I guess because he spent so much time in foreign countries growing up he never heard the old but true saying, “You can’t get blood out of a turnip”. Or “nothing from nothing leaves nothing.”

Obama is coming for the turnip. U.S. based multi-nationals will close the U.S. part of the business and operate as foreign companies. That breaks the access for the IRS to try to tax the profits made in a foreign country. It also kills revenue to the IRS from the part of the company that ceases to exist on U.S. soil. As always, be careful what you wish for...you might get it.

28 posted on 05/04/2009 10:37:11 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: relictele
Loophole = special tax trick bought from Congress by one campaign supporter being used by others who didn't pay for it.
29 posted on 05/04/2009 10:37:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: keep your powder dry

Ogabe needs someway to pay close to a trillion dollars for just the INTEREST on our debt in the next decade.


30 posted on 05/04/2009 10:38:11 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: jveritas
Your master Obama and his socialism is working great (extreme sarcasm).

Where did I give obama credit? The worlds economy is greater than any polictician's actions. Things are slowly improving in spite of obama.

Copper and zinc prices are way up because demand (use) is improving-that means companies and people are startingto buy things again. Same with aluminum. Alcoa is way up because demand is up. People are starting to buy things again.

Home sales have increased 2 months in a row. A real estate broker on this site who resides in Florida said people are starting to buy again and they are buying houses greater than the asking price (on forclosed homes) that means a bottom has been set. The dow is going up because wall street is looking ahead. Not behind.

31 posted on 05/04/2009 10:39:12 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: PubliusMM
Tax increases on companies are NOT paid by those companies. They pass along increased taxes, just like other increased costs, to their customers, and ultimately to the final consumers.

Conservatives need to beat this one to death: Corporations don't pay taxes, they pass them along to me and you in the form of higher prices.

The best way to close all corporate tax loopholes is to end all corporate taxation. That results in lower prices to consumers, which results in more consumption. More consumption = more jobs.

32 posted on 05/04/2009 10:39:38 AM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: tc45a; kabar
Also why did you copy Kabar in your post when he did not post on this thread? Is it because he replied to me on another thread regarding the same issue and you agree with his reply? Are you stocking me? Are you looking at my posts and who is replying to me?

You do not belong on this forum. You are a socialist and a left wing liberal. Go back to DU and DailyKos.

33 posted on 05/04/2009 10:42:04 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: tc45a

Obama and Karl Marx are your masters. Go and worship them.


34 posted on 05/04/2009 10:43:30 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Terabitten

Particularily Caterpillar would be better off moving their HQ to Geneva, Switzerland. Probably 60% of their profits
come from overseas. They already have a big overseas sub in Switzerland which ownes all the other foreign operations.


35 posted on 05/04/2009 10:45:01 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Cyclone59

Roger that.

When you’re going through hell (and those of us with brains are) — keep going!

The current crop of pubbies don’t get that.


36 posted on 05/04/2009 10:47:34 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: jveritas
“PS: Did you guys at Wall Street make a deal with Obama to be exempted from this latest tax increase?”

Not sure about his buddies getting protected from tax increases, but not to worry....they'll make a killing collecting TARP money and speculating on Cap and Trade.

37 posted on 05/04/2009 10:48:10 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: jveritas

“....and it came to pass, in those days, that there went a degree by Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed”.


38 posted on 05/04/2009 10:48:44 AM PDT by perchprism
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To: jveritas
Are you stocking me?

No, I noticed kabars remarks on another thread dealing with the same subject matter. Yes I agree with his reply. I won't post to you anymore.

39 posted on 05/04/2009 10:51:00 AM PDT by tc45a
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To: jveritas
Obama and Karl Marx are your masters. Go and worship them.

One last thing. Take a good economics course and read some unbiased financial journals why the market is going up.

Hint: it's not because of what obama is doing.

40 posted on 05/04/2009 10:54:00 AM PDT by tc45a
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