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Young Evangelicals Break From Old on Gay Unions
CQPolitics ^ | 4/25/09 | Ben Weyl

Posted on 04/30/2009 10:32:47 AM PDT by steve-b

Within just a few days this month, the push for gay marriage found a wave of fresh momentum. A unanimous state Supreme Court decision legalized the practice in Iowa. The state legislature overrode a gubernatorial veto and instituted the practice in Vermont. And Democratic Gov. David A. Paterson announced plans to push legislation that would open the door to the practice in New York.

Beyond the political and legal arguments on the issue, however, are demographic shifts indicating that the controversy over same-sex unions may eventually fade altogether. Younger Americans are far more supportive of civil unions and gay marriage than older generations; in December, pollsters for Newsweek found that 51 percent of people between ages 18 and 34 support gay marriage, compared with 39 percent of all respondents.

Leaders of evangelical Christian organizations — the most vocal opponents of gay marriage as the issue polarized the electorate for much of this decade — now face a similar divide in their own ranks. In a survey last fall by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, Inc., 58 percent of white evangelicals ages 18 to 29 said they support either civil unions or gay marriage; support dropped to 46 percent among white evangelicals who were older than that. (Asked about gay marriage exclusively, the support figures were 26 percent for the younger group and 9 percent for the older group.)

"The data do show a growing divide between younger and older evangelicals. There clearly is a generational difference,” said Amy E. Black, a political scientist at Wheaton College, an evangelical liberal arts school in Illinois. She characterizes the thinking among many younger evangelicals as, "What big deal is civil unions, really? What I care about is the environment, or what I care about is human rights."...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aposty; celebratesin; culturewar; demographics; evangelicals; gaymarriage; generationy; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; pravdamedia; samesexmarriage; sodomites
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To: Mind Freed

Apparently, the world is being darkened right now as many of those who claim the Name of Christ actually embrace the death and sin of the world. You are likely going to witness the companion increase of hatred against you (and us older believers) for continuing to call this stuff sin. Good for you for refusing the “popular” position.

If the Scriptures that claim God is managing all of this are true (and we believe they are), then we have little to fear, much to watch. We ought to be teaching the truth of His election and rescue of those whom He “...chose before the foundation of the world.” Eph. 1. to as many as will listen. The rest of the folks will not, cannot, hear you.

This is a magnificent drama unfolding before our very eyes as God displays the glory of His control and power. They do not know Who they are trifling with. The “religious” teens, like Miley Cyrus, speak without knowledge, attempting to lead others into the darkness which they themselves do not recognize, making uniformed and incorrect statements about homosexuality and sin. Watch as the world grows cold and more oppressive toward believers who refuse to join in. We may get the opportunity to march back into a coliseum.


41 posted on 04/30/2009 11:09:39 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: SandWMan
Many of these “evangelicals” are simply not Christians anyway. At best, they are infant Christians. The depth of their theological knowledge is limited to “Jesus loves you”. They’re only interested in pop music and good feelings.

They want to be the "cool", pop-acceptable Christians.

42 posted on 04/30/2009 11:18:57 AM PDT by exist
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To: Dutchboy88
The younger generation of Christians think that it is mature to say that they are Christian and sympathetic to say that they are tolerant. It is all about image. I know that God is in control, I'm not perfect AT ALL. But when I make mistakes I take responsibility for them and ask for forgiveness.

If God was tolerant of sin then there never would have been a need for Christ. This, my, generation doesn't understand that and one day will have to answer for their actions. Knowing that one day I will be in front of God and asked to answer for my decisions is not something that I take lightly.

43 posted on 04/30/2009 11:19:31 AM PDT by Mind Freed ("Every man has the right to be a fool 5 minutes a day. Wisdom is not exceeding the limit.")
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To: steve-b

Redefining the word “evangelical”.


44 posted on 04/30/2009 11:20:31 AM PDT by donna (Air Force One: WHO WAS ON THE PLANE?)
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To: steve-b; All

FOLKS NOTE THE MSM PUSH on this subject.

McCain’s closetted advisor comes out.

The NYT does a push poll lying about “acceptance” (remember when it was only tolerance)

This is about going after “the children”.

Remember the phrase “never trust anyone over 35”? This is directly onto that. Meghan McCain was the peoples youth republican.

IOW the left is saying the GOP is old and dead, the Democrats are young. Young means you ACCEPT as normal two men playing with each other’s genitals.

Truth is irrelivant, this is about big lie journalism.


45 posted on 04/30/2009 11:22:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SandWMan

You nailed it!


46 posted on 04/30/2009 11:26:19 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: steve-b
So do you:

Ezekiel 16:50 KJV (50) And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

2 Peter 2:6-8 KJVR (6) And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; (7) And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (8) (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

Jude 1:7 KJVR (7) Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

47 posted on 04/30/2009 11:26:51 AM PDT by Sister_T (The Obama Administration = EPIC FAIL!)
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To: ansel12

Amazing chart. When will black Christians wake up to the anti-Christian, anti-God, pro-abortion, anti-marriage, anti-decency Obama Administration? Does being black trump everything, even common sense?


48 posted on 04/30/2009 11:29:22 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: NurseZac
Yes it is! The signs are all around for those that have eyes to see and ears to hear. We are in the middle of the great apostasy. If you knew me, you would know that I would normally be FREAKING out that someone even one tenth like Obama was POTUS. Yet, I have a peace that passes ALL understanding. I see the writing on the wall. I am convinced that we are the generation that will see the Second Coming. Our job is to ramp up evangelism and take as many as we can with us.

Many pastors these days are spineless and have not preached the truth and now this is what we have.

49 posted on 04/30/2009 11:30:11 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: Sister_T

How do you resolve these places where the Bible contradicts itself?


50 posted on 04/30/2009 11:30:24 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

There’s nothing to resolve for I find no contradictions in the Bible.


51 posted on 04/30/2009 11:32:02 AM PDT by Sister_T (The Obama Administration = EPIC FAIL!)
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To: steve-b

Clearly the Christian faith is not being taught to the youth, and that is a problem in all Christian churches and denominations.


52 posted on 04/30/2009 11:36:29 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Mind Freed

I became a Christian when I was 18 and 29 years later I still understand what it means, what sin is and its devastating consequences. They are confusing tolerance with mercy. Today’s younger generation is going to get the biggest eye openers of their lives over the next couple of years. They are very lax in the areas of personal responsibility and accountability. I believe God will allow them to suffer greatly under the devices of their own selves and lead them to repentance.


53 posted on 04/30/2009 11:40:34 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: WashingtonSource
Amazing chart. When will black Christians wake up to the anti-Christian, anti-God, pro-abortion, anti-marriage, anti-decency Obama Administration? Does being black trump everything, even common sense?

Obama got 54% of the Catholic vote and almost nothing of the Evangelical vote and very little of the Protestant vote at all (putting all protestants together he still only got 45% of their vote).

Even Hispanic protestants gave Obama less than Catholics (about 52%), and then we get to black Protestants voting for Obama by about 96%, something is clearly wrong with the thinking of black Christians.

54 posted on 04/30/2009 11:40:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: MBB1984
This argument has been put forth by people looking for Biblical proof that Sodom didn't commit SEXUAL sin. Anyone that has truly spent time in the Word Of God must have been exposed to 50 verses proclaiming homosexual behavior is an abomination to God. The word "sodomite" and "sodomy" CAME from the sexual sin performed there. I'm sure they also had idle hands, were full of bread, and had many other character flaws.

But to miss the FACT that the Sodomites wanted the angels sexually and Lott offered his daughters instead, misses the whole point of the destruction of the whole valley.

It is easy to use a computer Bible to do a search on homosexual behavior verses. If done, there can be NO DOUBT what God thinks of it.

55 posted on 04/30/2009 11:42:20 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: WashingtonSource

“When will black Christians wake up to the anti-Christian, anti-God, pro-abortion, anti-marriage, anti-decency Obama Administration? Does being black trump everything, even common sense?”

They are being hypocritical and have put race before faith. They have also been lead by many bad pastors. I know quite a few who did not drink the Obama Kool-Aid and had him nailed dead to center early on. They are also letting their black brothers have it like you would not believe. They take no prisoners and stand for the Gospel courageously.


56 posted on 04/30/2009 11:47:14 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: chuckles

Bill Ayers dabbled in “swinging” with the different male and female members of the Weather Underground. As he said in his book, a passage of which appeared in his 9-11-2001 NY Times interview, his goal was to “smash monogamy”.

When asked how to men getting “married” harms your marriage, it is about subverting the culture.


57 posted on 04/30/2009 11:49:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: steve-b
The term Evangelical has become so ambiguous that it is useless as a description. The first Evangelicals were Lutherans, but there is a difference between being evangelical and Evangelicalism. American Evangelicalism fits nicely within the category of the moralistic therapeutic deism used to describe the dominant religious views of teenagers. American Evangelicalism is more interested in political activism than it is the Gospel, and it spurns doctrine and replaces it with emotionalism. There is little difference between Evangelicals and Liberals.
58 posted on 04/30/2009 11:50:28 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: DarthVader

There were black ministers who took Obama to task over abortion and the norming of homosexuality. They got flack from some in the black community over it (even some “religious” figures) but ultimately we all answer to a higher power.


59 posted on 04/30/2009 11:51:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: Nosterrex
There is little difference between Evangelicals and Liberals.

Well, they certainly vote differently.

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60 posted on 04/30/2009 11:58:59 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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