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Young Evangelicals Break From Old on Gay Unions
CQPolitics ^ | 4/25/09 | Ben Weyl

Posted on 04/30/2009 10:32:47 AM PDT by steve-b

Within just a few days this month, the push for gay marriage found a wave of fresh momentum. A unanimous state Supreme Court decision legalized the practice in Iowa. The state legislature overrode a gubernatorial veto and instituted the practice in Vermont. And Democratic Gov. David A. Paterson announced plans to push legislation that would open the door to the practice in New York.

Beyond the political and legal arguments on the issue, however, are demographic shifts indicating that the controversy over same-sex unions may eventually fade altogether. Younger Americans are far more supportive of civil unions and gay marriage than older generations; in December, pollsters for Newsweek found that 51 percent of people between ages 18 and 34 support gay marriage, compared with 39 percent of all respondents.

Leaders of evangelical Christian organizations — the most vocal opponents of gay marriage as the issue polarized the electorate for much of this decade — now face a similar divide in their own ranks. In a survey last fall by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, Inc., 58 percent of white evangelicals ages 18 to 29 said they support either civil unions or gay marriage; support dropped to 46 percent among white evangelicals who were older than that. (Asked about gay marriage exclusively, the support figures were 26 percent for the younger group and 9 percent for the older group.)

"The data do show a growing divide between younger and older evangelicals. There clearly is a generational difference,” said Amy E. Black, a political scientist at Wheaton College, an evangelical liberal arts school in Illinois. She characterizes the thinking among many younger evangelicals as, "What big deal is civil unions, really? What I care about is the environment, or what I care about is human rights."...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aposty; celebratesin; culturewar; demographics; evangelicals; gaymarriage; generationy; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; pravdamedia; samesexmarriage; sodomites
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To: Mind Freed

“LEARN FROM THE OLDER GENERATION”, The Older Gen needs to learn it first.


21 posted on 04/30/2009 10:55:30 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: SandWMan

You’re right on the money.

Hebrews 5:12 “For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.”
Hebrews 5:13 “For every one that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.”
Hebrews 5:14 “But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”

Evangelism has a place, but too many such churches allow new Christians to remain stuck at salvation and never give them a strong Biblical foundation..Which is why we can have so many Evangelical “Christians” vote for our present Administration.

Singing a few songs and a feel-good sermon isn’t gonna get it done.


22 posted on 04/30/2009 10:55:41 AM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: steve-b

Wolves in sheep’s clothing.


23 posted on 04/30/2009 10:55:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: steve-b

I think it depends on who they are calling “evangelical.” In the rapidly-growing evangelical churches of the Reformed (Calivinist) tradition (Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City would be a good example), they are made up disporportionately of younger people, and these young people tend to be more conservative than older evangelicals, as well as being secularly better educated and more knowledgeable about Scripture.


24 posted on 04/30/2009 10:56:22 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: ansel12

McCain was an abysmal failure. The GOP better get it’s head out of it’s ass.


25 posted on 04/30/2009 10:59:19 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
If they even have an answer they will spout some liberal garbage about how it was that the queers were inhospitable to the two angels, that THAT was the sin of Sodom. Yeah right. There is no context for that position.

You flunk today's Bible Study class:

"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."
--Ezekiel 16:49

26 posted on 04/30/2009 10:59:30 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

What an unfortunate reality.


27 posted on 04/30/2009 11:01:11 AM PDT by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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To: HailReagan78
Which is why we can have so many Evangelical “Christians” vote for our present Administration. Look at post 20, no one is more anti Obama than Evangelicals.
28 posted on 04/30/2009 11:01:26 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: steve-b
The interesting number in this poll is that young people only favor same-sex “marriage” 51-39 after an unbelievable propaganda blitz in its favor, aimed at their demographic, and with opposition views stifled by Political Correctness. What this indicates is that this demographic would be three-to-one against it if both sides were presented to them forcefully. The lesson here is for conservatives to fight this nanny-state creation with vigor, not to capitulate to it as a result of leftist imprinting.
29 posted on 04/30/2009 11:01:34 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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To: steve-b

“58 percent of white evangelicals ages 18 to 29 said they support either civil unions or gay marriage”

Then, they’re not CHRISTIAN evangelicals. Now it’s “gay” marriage; what’s next? Pedophile rights???


30 posted on 04/30/2009 11:01:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: steve-b
Christians who divorced perverted marriage long before the homosexuals targeted the institution.

No fault divorce begot all this “stuff” which creates a powerful argument for those who favor homosexual marriage.

31 posted on 04/30/2009 11:02:23 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: puroresu

I would say it is more that kids aren’t being properly taught the faith anymore.


32 posted on 04/30/2009 11:04:05 AM PDT by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: steve-b

IN general I would expect younger people to care less about something like gay marriage since in their lifetime it has been pushed as thoroughly normal behavior. The culture (by way of the media) drives A LOT of this. It doesn’t mean they’re right, it just means it seems right to them.


33 posted on 04/30/2009 11:05:05 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: SandWMan

“At best, they are infant Christians. The depth of their theological knowledge is limited to “Jesus loves you”. They’re only interested in pop music and good feelings.”

A lot of these evangelical churches limit the teachings of Christ to this. It’s all very touchy-feely, very “self-help” oriented. Very shallow.

It always annoyed me that to find fellow young parishioners that I had to go to these places. I’d often find myself going to church twice a day—once at a church that actually dealt with the tough issues and another for fellowship with people my age.

This gay marriage business is one that has worked its way into the popular media and the schools, and I’m afraid it’s going to destroy the American family from within. You don’t define marriage to the exclusion of child conception and rearing and keep any historical importance it has always had. Marriage is about so much more than “being happy,” but really, that’s all our society seems to care about. It’s a very myoptic, reptilian way to go through life. No higher calling. Just be happy. *rolls eyes*


35 posted on 04/30/2009 11:06:35 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: steve-b; Admin Moderator
Yet another gay post from this particular poster.

How long is this stuff going to be tolerated, anyway?
36 posted on 04/30/2009 11:06:36 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Mind Freed

Every generation thinks they are somehow wiser than the ones before. I don’t think most realize it until they are the older generation themselves. Good on you, we all learn more by listening than by talking!


37 posted on 04/30/2009 11:06:36 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: wk4bush2004

They must conduct their polls outside a typical American movie theater.


38 posted on 04/30/2009 11:06:46 AM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: steve-b

The younger generation of Christians is also very casual about living together without getting married. A young gal who used to cut my hair got married and told me that all her friends thought it was “quaint”. It’s not just non-Christians with that view, unfortunately.


39 posted on 04/30/2009 11:07:49 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Earth: It's not your mother, it's just a big rock.)
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To: steve-b
Actually, that answer, while true, was clarified in Jude 7:

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

40 posted on 04/30/2009 11:08:29 AM PDT by MBB1984
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