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Dumb Enchanted Evening
FrontPageMag.com ^ | April 30, 2009 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 04/30/2009 1:56:56 AM PDT by FrontPageMag.com

OBAMA’s 100 DAYS OF ENCHANTMENT press conference WILL BE REMEMBERED for one’s reporters fawning question: What has “Enchanted you the most from [sic.] serving in this office?” Jeff Zeleny, who writes for the – wait for it – New York Times, buried hard news by becaming part of the story. However, the ho-hum presser featured important revelations on three foreign policy issues: “torture,” Iraq, and releasing state secrets. Obama’s comments on abortion and illegal immigration should have raised eyebrows, as should a series of statements that would have gotten Dan Quayle or George W. Bush crucified.

The Real Churchill Record

To defend his banning CIA interrogators of using harsh interrogation techniques against al-Qaeda operatives, Obama claimed:

I was struck by an article that I was reading the other day talking about the fact that the British during World War II, when London was being bombed to smithereens, had 200 or so detainees. And Churchill said, ‘We don't torture,’ when the entire British – all of the British people were being subjected to unimaginable risk and threat.

This tidbit was presumably gleaned from Niall Ferguson’s 2006 piece “Why Churchill Opposed Torture” in the Los Angeles Times, or Andrew Sullivan’s recent blog on a topic he’s exploited for months. However, as Charles Johnson has long since pointed out, it’s absolutely false. At the outset of World War II, the Chamberlain government passed Defence Regulation 18B, which allowed for the internment of anyone dubbed to be of “hostile origin or associations.” Churchill biographer Martin Gilbert records how within a year Churchill detained “tens of thousands” of “enemy aliens,” and some “were German anti-Nazi refugees…including many German and Austrian Jews.” These detainees could be held indefinitely, without benefit of habeas corpus, and the ranks soon expanded to include native Britons of suspect political views. Shortly, Sir (yes, Sir!) Oswald Mosley would be carted off, along with most of the membership of the British Union of Fascists.

Nor did Churchill hold all uniformed German soldiers in placid dignity. Many were taken to a prison known as the “London Cage,” a long-kept wartime secret, which operated from July 1940 to September 1948. Its commander, Lt. Col. Alexander P. Scotland, remarked how he would tell himself each day upon entering, “‘Abandon all hope ye who enter here.’ For if any German had any information we wanted, it was invariably extracted from him in the long run.” The (UK) Guardian reported the Cage’s “prisoners had been forced to kneel while being beaten about the head; forced to stand to attention for up to 26 hours; threatened with execution; or threatened with ‘an unnecessary operation.’” (You can read more on the London Cage here.)

Not only did Conservative icon Winston Churchill support the measure, there is every reason to believe his socialist successor, Clement Atlee, approved of Regulation 18B (which he helped implement) and presided over even worse tortures of Germans.

Needless to say, Ferguson’s conclusions are as wrong as his “facts.” Niall wrote, “Few, if any, American soldiers currently find themselves in enemy hands. But in the long war on which Bush has embarked, that may not always be the case. The bottom line about mistreating captive foes is simple: It is that what goes around comes around.” Yet even when he wrote this article, there had been two conspicuous examples of Americans “in enemy hands”: the four American contractors in Fallujah, whom they tortured, killed, charred, and then put on display; and Nicholas Berg, whom they beheaded, specifically in retaliation for the photos of Abu Ghraib.

Torture, Iraq, and State Secrets

…On which theme, ABC’s Jake Tapper asked Obama the most penetrating question of the evening: if the Bush administration approved waterboarding, and Obama believes “waterboarding...is torture,” does this mean “the previous administration sanctioned torture?” Obama’s answer, in box-step fashion, was yes; the Bush administration approved of – and uniformed U.S. officials carried out – acts of torture against Muslims. While Obama tipped his hat to “information that was yielded” from waterboarding, he thinks “we could have gotten this information in other ways...that were consistent with our values.” He acknowledged, “In some cases, it may be harder,” but as he said in his speech before the CIA, doing his best Stuart Smalley impression, “That’s O.K.” After all, he theorized last night, ending the practice “takes away a critical recruitment tool that al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations have used to try to demonize the United States and justify the killing of civilians.” His assertion that Americans perpetrated torture will itself stir anti-American sentiment, not least as it follows his recently order for the Defense Department to release hundreds of photos of detainee abuse. Apparently Obama believes this al-Qaeda recruitment package can be waved away with an assurance that (wink, wink) we no longer do those things – and by the way, Eid-eh Shoma Mobarak!

The release of these photos, accompanied by memos detailing “torture,” took a more important tone as the president told Time magazine’s Michael Scherer he plans to reveal more state secrets of this sort. “I actually think that the state secret doctrine should be modified. I think right now it's overbroad,” he said. He then revealed, “Eric Holder and Greg Craig, my White House counsel, and others are working on that as we speak.” The selection of Holder – and Craig, whose commitment to the rule of law led him to assist Bill Clinton’s evasion of it – makes one worry Obama plans to make “a foreign-aid program out of American secrets.”

However, the foreign policy aspect of the conference was not all naïve promises. He explained “his” long-range Iraq withdrawal policy, which is identical to President Bush’s withdrawal policy, saying, “more work needs to be done on the political side to further isolate whatever remnants of Al-Qaeda in Iraq still exist.” But if Iraq was a fraud, a war of choice as the Left insists, why must we win it? In one phrase, he admits al-Qaeda is in Iraq; that it remains a threat; that Bush’s troop surge was the right policy (though Obama opposed it as late as last July); that Nancy Pelosi was wrong to insist, “If we leave Iraq, then the insurgents will leave Iraq, the terrorists will leave Iraq”; and the immediate withdrawal his entire party counseled for years was the wrong policy formulated either out of stupidity or with something other than the nation’s best interests in mind.

Social Issues

Obama also made minor headlines on social issues like abortion and illegal immigration. Summarizing the pro-abortion point of view he said, “I don't want to create straw men here.” There’s a first. Then he announced, “The Freedom of Choice Act is not my highest legislative priority.” Which means he’s either a liar now or he was a liar on the campaign trail when he told Planned Parenthood, “[T]he first thing I'd do as president is, is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing that I'd do.” (Even the Left's Messiah lies.) The word “highest” is also troubling, as it means rolling back the vox populi in every state in the union that demands sensible restrictions is still a part of his (anti-)Democratic agenda.

On immigration, he told Lori Montenegro of the Spanish-language network Telemundo he planned to continue his push for “immigration reform,” though he stopped shy of endorsing her one-year time frame. He referred to illegal immigrants as “undocumented workers,” but he also mentioned the tragic reality of their position in the economy: “they can be exploited at the same time as they're depressing U.S. wages.” He proceeded to call for “a more thoughtful approach than just raids of a handful of workers.” Not that he wants to create a straw man or anything....

The Iowa Primary?

The majority of the press conference consisted, as most press conferences do, of self-congratulations and nonsense. He continued his penchant for Carteresque just-plain-folks solutions to global problems: “keep your hands washed; cover your mouth when you cough,” inflate your tires….

However, he made two statements no Republican could have gotten away with. When CBS’s Chip Reid tossed him the second softest softball of the evening – “What do you think [Arlen Specter’s party] switch says about the state of the Republican Party?” – Obama replied, “You're talking to a guy who was 30 points down in the polls during a primary in Iowa.” Iowa doesn’t have a primary. It has caucuses, as do some of the other 56 states.

On the softest softball, he said he felt “humbled” that he “can't just press a button and suddenly have the bankers do exactly what I want.” In President Bush, this would have been denounced as cowboy “hubris.” For ObaMessiah, a lack of power breeds humility.

May he be richly rewarded with that virtue in his remaining 1,361 days in office.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhopress; churchill; enchanted; first100days; obama; torture
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1 posted on 04/30/2009 1:56:57 AM PDT by FrontPageMag.com
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To: FrontPageMag.com
I forget if it was O'Reilly or Dennis Miller today thought perhaps he was thinking Ward Churchill, LOL.
2 posted on 04/30/2009 2:01:04 AM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: BuckyKat

I think Miller said it to O’Reily. I do enjoy Miller Time.


3 posted on 04/30/2009 2:20:57 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: FrontPageMag.com; doug from upland

Make it stop, please! Fortunately, I do not have time for a song parody today. But, if anyone else does, here are the real lyrics to “Some Enchanted Evening”:

Some enchanted evening
You may see a stranger,
you may see a stranger
Across a crowded room
And somehow you know,
You know even then
That somewhere you’ll see her
Again and again.

Some enchanted evening
Someone may be laughin’,
You may hear her laughin’
Across a crowded room
And night after night,
As strange as it seems
The sound of her laughter
Will sing in your dreams.

Who can explain it?
Who can tell you why?
Fools give you reasons,
Wise men never try.

Some enchanted evening
When you find your true love,
When you feel her call you
Across a crowded room,
Then fly to her side,
And make her your own
Or all through your life you
May dream all alone.

Once you have found her,
Never let her go.
Once you have found her,
Never let her go!


4 posted on 04/30/2009 2:24:29 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: BuckyKat

I thought Obama didn’t care for Winston Churchill and wouldn’t abide his sculpture being in the Oval Office; but now he’s quoting him when it’s to his advantage?


5 posted on 04/30/2009 2:42:31 AM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

btt


6 posted on 04/30/2009 2:54:51 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: FrontPageMag.com
Dopiest. Question. Ever.
7 posted on 04/30/2009 2:55:03 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: don-o
Softballs were flying last night. Helen Thomas, that little troll like creature that she is, looked like she could internally combust at any moment last night. The press corps have lost any semblance of partiality. Check out the comments at the LA Times on the presser. They're down right astounding in their condemnation of the media.
8 posted on 04/30/2009 3:15:51 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: RU88

In the immediate aftermath, CNN was ecstatic. David Gergan sounded like he had had multiple orgasms.


9 posted on 04/30/2009 3:22:21 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: RU88
Softballs were flying last night

And to think that the not so major networks gave up an hour of commercial revenue for this unpaid political commercial to be broadcast into homes across our great nation.

The next thing we know, BHO will own the 8pm hour so we can observe him fielding questions from his kids. "Daddy, how did you save America today from the ravages of the evil W?"

CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC -

Unless our nation is facing a known crisis or mega-emergency, just say No! to the requests to roll TOTUS out for public spewing.

This guy reminds me of my trips to Haiti where the only broadcast available most evenings were re-runs of Aristide speeches.

Thanks to FOX for saying No!

10 posted on 04/30/2009 3:39:42 AM PDT by Dustoff45 (A non-posting Freeper makes no spelling errors (Have a Misspell on me))
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To: FrontPageMag.com

I would never watch this trash.


11 posted on 04/30/2009 3:49:32 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: FrontPageMag.com
The London Cage was used partly as a torture centre, inside which large numbers of German officers and soldiers were subjected to systematic ill-treatment. In total 3,573 men passed through the Cage, and more than 1,000 were persuaded to give statements about war crimes. The brutality did not end with the war, moreover: a number of German civilians joined the servicemen who were interrogated there up to 1948.

I wasn't able to stomach more than a millisecond of the MSM/0bama worship service last night. I found the above article from a Guardian UK article in 2005 by doing a Google search (emphasis mine). Niall Ferguson needs to be kicked in the n@ts for this obvious mis-recording of history, and Zero needs to have better fact checkers. I'm sure he'd never use bad information to make a point, so I'll blame them.

12 posted on 04/30/2009 4:02:57 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: RU88
“Helen Thomas, that little troll like creature that she is,”

Dennis Miller said that Helen Thomas is what Janet Nepolitano looks like- before you add water.

13 posted on 04/30/2009 4:09:00 AM PDT by Into the Vortex
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To: FrontPageMag.com

Here’s to the press for that ‘enchanted evening’. LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qpQb11YWc


14 posted on 04/30/2009 4:13:26 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: FrontPageMag.com
He referred to illegal immigrants as “undocumented workers,” but he also mentioned the tragic reality of their position in the economy: “they can be exploited at the same time as they're depressing U.S. wages.”

This is Obama at his absolute best, or worst depending on your political perspective. This classic straw man argument is a comment rhetorical tool he uses to try to stifle debate. The whole thrust of his argument is that illegal aliens are being exploited while at the same time they are depressing U.S. wages. That on it's face is true. What is not true are the outcomes arising from his true objective, that being amnesty and legalization. Competition for jobs and depression of wages would only increase with this course of action, not lessen. If one were truly honest, the only way this competition stops is for the illegals to be deported or no longer be able to employed within the United States.

The desired outcome for Obama is assured however; millions of new voters eagerly ready to give him their votes, along with the salivating mouths of the union leaders who would go about trying to organize them.

15 posted on 04/30/2009 4:56:05 AM PDT by RU88
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To: BuckyKat

Well, we have the Max Headroom Presidency now.
TOTALLY celluloidal teleprompter android president.
He will make mistakes and factual errors.

He may have thought Winston and Ward Churchill were the same person.
He has the MSM "enchanted" with his metrosexual Athena mojo pheromone
cologne and baritone Venus Flytrap voice. So if he gets confused with some
facts or history they will still go "goo-goo-ga-ga" for him.

16 posted on 04/30/2009 6:49:07 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: MaggieCarta

I don’t have time either.


17 posted on 04/30/2009 7:14:40 AM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

Ping for great read Frontpage magazine.


18 posted on 04/30/2009 8:34:59 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: WOSG
Whenever I hear a male use the term enchanting or enchanted, I usually think of THIS!
19 posted on 04/30/2009 8:46:45 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Six months from now there will be 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: FrontPageMag.com

Funny, was it not one week back that Obama said the previous administration’s interrogations did NOT make us safer.

Now he’s just had to come out and double back on that fib.

How many millions of American civilians is he willing to sacrifice so he can pat himself on the back and say what a swell guy he is?


20 posted on 04/30/2009 8:55:47 AM PDT by romanesq
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