Posted on 04/29/2009 5:24:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Chickin Little society
I think I read somewhere that per the CDC, all estimated flu deaths were about 36,000 annually. So far we have a miniscule handfull by comparison. It may turn out bad, but I gotta believe the media are blowing this thing out of porportion for now.
Interesting. The DJIA hit a new recent high, following the Dow Transport index, but there was enough of a delay that it needed confirmation again by the Dow Transport.
It didn’t get it, and I think this is the reason. Travel and “hospitality” businesses are going to get at least a small hit from the flu scare. At least a few people are going to cancel trips, certainly to Mexico, and perhaps elsewhere as well.
So, FWIW, Richard Russell says no Dow buy signal confirmation yet. The market bounce may not go much higher before the decline resumes.
Their Pope has said he needs crises, and they're gonna deliver an unending series of them.
Honestly, right now, can you blame people. Sitting in a sealed cabin for how many hours breaathing in recycled air? Not very inviting.
Actually, if anything, I am surprised by how much the government is downplaying it. CDC lists 91 lab confirmed cases in 10 states but if you go by reported probables, it is somewhere over 1,000 cases in at least 28 states and that is growing literally by the hour.
Remember, pandemic does not mean spread of death, just spread of illness. Most of the people who get this may just be sick for a few days and then get better.
Yup. Excellent discussion here -- excerpt:
This board is well prepared, so panic is not in the wind here. What you may not realize is many of us are very knowledgable about what you just described. It is the fact that we think beyond the initial issue that has us concerned.We recognize this is just the beginning of Wave 1. We are also aware of seasonal H1N1 and H3N2 flus that have developed an immunity to Tamiflu. This may likely mix with the common H1N1 and also develop and immunity to that medication, which is bad since it already is resistant to the amantidines and ramantidines. Hopefully Relenza will still help by the time it evolves into Wave 2
The other concern is that when it gets to the other side of the globe, that it doesn't also make its bed with H5N1. because it is so novel a version of H1N1, we don't yet know whether it is capable of gaining any of that virus' virulence. That would definitely be a bad thing.
Wave 2+ are where my heavy concern is regarding this particular bug, though in its current Wave 1 version, it could definately wreak havoc on third world populations who are already suffering from HIV and other immune compromising diseases.
No problem....We’ll bail them out...
I received an email from a friend who’s in pediatrics. Evidently she’s getting a lot of calls/emails...so she put out the facts and reminded everyone it’s a flu, and do the same things you always do during flu season. Her last line was sarcastic. “So keep your kids in a bubble and try not to breathe too much.”
Another doctor friend whose practice is mostly elderly people said the phone is ringing off the hook. All the hoopla has scared the older folks to death and they’re wanting to be seen for ordinary colds, etc. He thinks it’s irresponsible how the media/CDC/WHO is playing this up considering we have tens of thousands of deaths every year from flu, and they never make a big deal of that.
so is there more room on airline or are they still overbooking
As to whether this "crisis" is manufactured? I don't know. What I do know is that it is happening and the government is responding according to a prearranged plan. School closings are part of the social distancing policies established by CDC. In Texas alone, 53,000 students were affected by school closings this week.
If the WHO raises their phase from 5 to 6, you will see an acceleration of social distancing measures in the United States because that is a trigger in the plan.. Things like the closing of theaters and canceling sporting events. Widespread school closings and businesses going to staggered work forces. There may be mass quarantines and forced exams. How do I know all this? The CDC plan is a public document and I read it. In fact, I posted it to FR yesterday. I also listened in on a conference call held by CDC and FEMA lawyers on the legal issues surrounding Non-Pharmaceutical mitigation legal issues - things like how to implement mass quarantines under current law.
This is happening, whether we want to believe it or not.
In the mean time Joe Average Citizen especially the Greedy Geezer crowd can't fire two neurons to contemplate that two major titans of Manufacturing are now owned by the UAW and Uncle Sugar....
Honey pass me the beer nuts, Idol is on..
Bread and Circus, Rome is burning....
Cicero, we're living in strange times.
Markets Face 20% Fall If Swine Flu Spreads
World stock markets could fall by 15pc-20pc if the World Health Organisation (WHO) upgrades the swine flu outbreak to a "phase 5" crisis, a leading fund manager has warned."
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I just looked, the Japanese Nikkei is up 121 points. (?)
It’s all frightening. Thanks for the info (I think?). Info is good. I’m taking the cautious approach. Me and those near & dear are staying away from crowds for sure.
Up 328 points at 9:54
Nikkei 225 8,822.03 +328.26 +3.86%
All I can guess is that the markets don't believe the WHO and the possible seriousness of the flu pandemic now in progress.
Only 4%? Am guessing that Obama is disappointed. . .
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