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GOP Spine Needs to Stiffen in Spite of Specter Switch
Townhall.com ^ | Wednesday, April 29, 2009 | Matt Kibbe

Posted on 04/29/2009 5:15:47 PM PDT by Delacon

Arlen Specter’s announcement this week of his plans to switch to the Democrat side of the aisle is sending shockwaves throughout the country.

No one is surprised as to the motives behind the defection, as Pennsylvania conservatives’ ire over Senator Specter and his big government leanings are very well-known. These tensions were headed to a breaking point in advance of Specter’s 2010 re-election bid and the switch was necessary to keep his hopes of political survival alive. It is in how the GOP responds to this bombshell however that will dictate its impact on the future of the conservative limited government movement.

Staring down the barrel of the immediate policy consequences of the Specter switch will give freedom-loving conservatives a good deal of heartburn. Specter will work to endear himself to his new party and their march toward the Obama agenda of big government. Socialized medicine, a massive carbon cap-and-trade tax hike, union-empowering card check legislation: all these liberal policy wish-list items now have new life. A sixty-vote margin in the Senate is now guaranteed to beat back the threat of a conservative filibuster against any of these proposals and many on the Right, to include myself, are worried about this newly strengthened Democratic steamroller paving America’s way towards socialism.

Surely many in the conservative soft-middle are already preparing their arguments for why it’s important for the GOP to come closer to the center (i.e. the Left). Some Republicans in Congress will reason that they must acquiesce to the Democrats on much of the policy agenda to have any hope of slipping in modest wins for conservative constituencies. Those more obsessed with power will seek this same approach in order to benefit their status on key committees and ensure the survival of pet projects for their districts and states. Certainly we will be able to depend on a core of rock-solid conservative champions like Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn in the Senate and Republican Study Committee Members in the House, but their ability to keep the GOP rooted in good, limited government principles will be significantly weakened by the “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” crowd.

Anticipating this latest crisis of conscience that Congressional Republicans will go through let me suggest that, in this political game of “chicken,” we shouldn’t turn first.

The strategy of cozying up to the liberal machine and hoping for the occasional table scrap was that of the content Republican minority during the early nineties in the days before the Contract with America. Fortunately, bold leaders like Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich chose not to buckle. They held Republicans together, took the fight directly to Democrats, and by standing on limited government, free market policy they were rewarded by the American electorate politically with control of Congress in 1994.

Consider too the fact that in today’s political environment, and despite the President’s perceived “rock star” status, Democrats have greatly resisted wholly owning the Obama agenda thus far. The fight over the trillion dollar stimulus plan in January was an early indicator. Pelosi, Reid, and Obama all spent a lot of time tinkering with language in the legislation in an effort to court some Congressional Republicans from the squishy center and claim the mantle of bipartisanship. Those efforts failed as almost every Republican (only three defections, all in the Senate, including the new Democrat Specter) stood together in voting against the bloated stimulus bill.

Now the larger health care debate has begun and Democrats have neatly worked a safety-valve into the budget resolution passed this week that will allow them to enact a government-run health care scheme through the reconciliation process, requiring only 51 votes. Nevertheless, that Democrat leaders are bending over backwards to show they would rather do it in a bipartisan way through the more rigorous regular-order process of achieving a 60-vote threshold is notable. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is leading a chorus of voices on the Left sounding the strong desire not to invoke reconciliation in order to pass health care legislation, even though they could, through numerous statements and a host of communications with the Republican conference.

Don’t let the touchy-feely nature of their bipartisan overtures fool you. Just like with the stimulus bill Democrats are afraid of being tagged with the political responsibility for their own party’s reform approach and want some Republican by-in for cover. What else could the reason be? If they whole-heartedly believed in the policy they were peddling they would proudly push it through on their own, even without the help of their caucus’ new member from Pennsylvania.

Those plotting the GOPs return to power should consider this in the wake of the Specter switch and take a lesson from Armey, Gingrich, and others that chose to go Right and actually won in spite of pressure to play ball.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 111th; arlenspecter; gop; rebuilding; resolve
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To: Kansas58

Post #37


41 posted on 04/29/2009 6:13:37 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: cripplecreek
Every single “Third Party” will have the SAME problems as the GOP.

Do you have a “better stock” of humans to staff and run your vaunted “3rd Party”???

You say “your” candidate did not get any “help” from the GOP?

Your solution? Run as a “Third Party” and GUARANTEE no GOP support?

It won't work. Third Parties will NEVER get more than single digits on election day.

Third Parties will never get more than a few thousand dollars, in campaign contributions.

Third Parties are designed to fail, and only help the Democrats.

42 posted on 04/29/2009 6:14:17 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: nobama08
Well, I’m not going to run for office

You don't need to. How about getting on your Town/City/County committee? They are the ones who interview and nominate every candidate on the ballot, from the local highway superintendent to the U.S. Congresscritters.

43 posted on 04/29/2009 6:14:21 PM PDT by Kudsman (Thou Shalt Not Steal - Government hates the competition.)
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To: Delacon
There are a number of interesting comments on the fate of the GOP by the various posters. I have never been a proponent of third parties, but I have also lost faith in the Republicans and Democrats. Neither one can discipline itself when in power. Both are advocates of big government and deficit spending. It is simply a matter of time. One party wants to go a little slower towards socialism than the other. It is the Iron Law of Oligarchy in action. The only realistic choice is between Statism and revolution/secession. I hate that it has come to this, but there is no use fighting human nature. The longer a political party exists, the more tyrannical it becomes.
44 posted on 04/29/2009 6:15:24 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Kansas58

Whatever, your seminar posting doesn’t really mean anything to me. Just know this.

We’re taking you down with us. LOL


45 posted on 04/29/2009 6:15:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Delacon

Got it, thanks


46 posted on 04/29/2009 6:18:33 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Delacon
I can remember Barry Goldwater's run for the presidency. He brought in a lot of new voters to the Republican Party, unfortunately there were many who thought Goldwater may be to extreme, but after four years of Lyndon Johnson even Richard Nixon could be elected.
47 posted on 04/29/2009 6:20:42 PM PDT by oyez (To the extent veterans read it as an accusation -- and apology is owed(i.e. not given))
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To: cripplecreek
I wrote the seminar, when there was one in this area.

I am not taking dictation from anyone.

What I say is true:

Third Parties are for egotistical morons who like to lose!

48 posted on 04/29/2009 6:21:20 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Delacon

We need the moderates. But, if they don’t want to be kicked out they have to be responsive to the rest of us. that does not mean they have to agree with us all of the time or even most of the time.that just means they can’t stab us in the back constantly. There are plenty of country clubbers who are not moderates but have conservative voting records but somehow they just seem to stab us in the back as well. They need to become responsive as well. Middle class conservatives are sick and tired of losing even if they have a majority. They are plainly looking for someone to take the blame. If the party wants to be inclusive than you have to be inclusive to you base as well.


49 posted on 04/29/2009 6:21:38 PM PDT by bilhosty (Tax payers for change)
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To: Nosterrex

I disagree. I am not a libertarian and didnt support Ron Paul in the last election because I knew he wasnt electable. I also disagreed with him on some important issues. BUT I SURE AS HELL WISH HE WAS THE PRESIDENT.


50 posted on 04/29/2009 6:22:33 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Kansas58
The rumbling you're hearing is the crumbling of the traditional party system. The new direction is candidate support, NOT party support. You see, under the current structure, he who gives the $$ calls the shots. Currently, we give $$ unaccountable parties. The parties then give our $$ that we gave them, to candidates of their choosing.

Why pay retail when you can buy wholesale? Cut out the party middlemen and give financial support for INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATES, not PARTIES.

Everyone wants quick solutions. We didn't get here overnight, and we won't fix it overnight. But, by supporting individual candidates, the candidates are beholden to the voters not the party apparatchiks.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, this kind of thinking riles up the folks currently in charge.
51 posted on 04/29/2009 6:23:40 PM PDT by Sylvester McMonkey McBean
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To: Kansas58

And the GOP is for masochistic morons who can’t get enough.


52 posted on 04/29/2009 6:24:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Delacon

I am trying to remember, when was the last time a Senator switched from the Rats to the GOP? I know tat Libermann because an independent, but he still votes with the Rats.

How far back do we have to go? And, the real question is whether the current attitude is only a path to true disaster.

Some communists were happy to see Hitler (who they say as right wing although we know better) elected because they believed a his eventual overthrow would lead to a communist paradise.

I am having trouble grasping how ideological purity is a good compensation for losing all the progress made since Reagan.


53 posted on 04/29/2009 6:28:45 PM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Yup, yup, sometimes it is nice to go a few days without having to hear from Gov. Palin, you betcha)
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To: Sylvester McMonkey McBean
I have advised EXACTLY the same strategy, for several years now.
In fact, I think that you should MAX OUT first, to the candidates you like, before you even consider giving to the GOP or to the House or Senate campaigns.
The political parties have MANY functions.
Fund raising is only one of their many other duties and functions.
54 posted on 04/29/2009 6:30:32 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: cripplecreek

You will NEVER get anyone elected, under a Third Party label.

That, I can guarantee you.

So what is the point?


55 posted on 04/29/2009 6:31:52 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Well genius, right off the top I’ll ask you to show me where I said even one word about 3rd parties.

You can’t, now bend over that chair and let the RINOs have another shot at you. LOL


56 posted on 04/29/2009 6:35:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Delacon
When it comes to fiscal restraint, Ron Paul is certainly better than what we have now. In many ways I am closer to Libertarians than to either The GOP or Dems, but there are too many differences on important issues that keep me from becoming Libertarian. Unless the people are willing to elect Libertarians to both houses of Congress, a third party President would be ineffective in office.
57 posted on 04/29/2009 6:35:26 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Cedric

Sorry
I thought you were COMPLAINING that Reagan did not run Specter out of the Party.

You are correct, Reagan allowed the various geographic areas, in the Party, to select their OWN Republican candidates.


58 posted on 04/29/2009 6:38:30 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: HangnJudge
What is needed is likely a new party The Republicans are self destructing

Fine, as long as the new party is majority former Democrats. Otherwise, it will only speed Republican 'self destruction'.

59 posted on 04/29/2009 6:39:58 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: cripplecreek
Your Post #48 would seem to indicate that you are a 3rd Party type.
You are free to explain otherwise, if you wish.
60 posted on 04/29/2009 6:41:04 PM PDT by Kansas58
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