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Catholic Cardinal Meets With Obama: Says President Claims He's Not Pro-Abortion
Life News ^ | 4/28/09 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/28/2009 11:50:36 AM PDT by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The president of the national conference of Catholic bishops recently elaborated further on the meeting he had in March with President Barack Obama. Cardinal George told a recent gathering of Catholic priests that Obama says he is not pro-abortion and will eventually work to reduce abortions.

For most pro-life advocates, Obama's extensive pro-abortion record of executive orders and key political appointments proves otherwise.

According to a Catholic News Service report, Cardinal Francis George discussed the conversation he had with Obama at a March 18 meeting at the White House.

"I think on the life issue he's on the wrong side of history," the cardinal said, but he added that Obama wants to make pro-life advocates appear as if he is on their side.

"It's hard to disagree with him because he'll always tell you he agrees with you," he said, according to CNS. "Maybe that's political. I think he sincerely wants to agree with you. You have to say, again and again, 'No, Mr. President, we don't agree (on abortion).'"

The Catholic News Service indicates Cardinal George said he told Obama he is concerned with the president's decision to overturn the Mexico City Policy and opening the door to funding groups that promote and perform abortions in other nations.

"He said we weren't exporting abortion," the cardinal recounted. "I said, 'Yes we are.' He would say, 'I know I have to do certain things here. ... But be patient and you'll see the pattern will change.' I said, 'Mr. President, you've given us nothing but the wrong signals on this issue.' So, we'll see, but I'm not as hopeful now as I was when he was first elected."

"I think he has his political debts to pay, and so he's paying them," Cardinal George said of the impression he was left with after the Obama meeting.

Ultimately, the Catholic pro-life leader cast a pessimistic view of the situation under Obama and the long-term outlook.

"I think we're up against something a little bit like slavery," he said, adding that Obama and abortion advocates are unwilling to change the law to protect human life before birth.

"It's a society-dividing issue, and on this issue, we're with Abraham Lincoln and he's with Stephen Douglas, and he doesn't like to hear that, but that's where he is," George said, according to CNS.

"For 80 years we were a slave republic, and it took a terrible war to end that. And now for 40 years we're in an abortion regime, and I'm not sure how that's going to end," he added.



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KEYWORDS: abortion; bhoabortion; catholic; moralabsolutes; obamatruthfile; prolife
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To: MHGinTN
According to the article. Cardinal George was not duped.

"It's hard to disagree with him because he'll always tell you he agrees with you," [Cardinal George] said, according to CNS. "Maybe that's political. I think he sincerely wants to agree with you. You have to say, again and again, 'No, Mr. President, we don't agree (on abortion).'"

Also according to the article, Cardinal George is aware of Obama's record of action:

"The Catholic News Service indicates Cardinal George said he told Obama he is concerned with the president's decision to overturn the Mexico City Policy and opening the door to funding groups that promote and perform abortions in other nations."

"He said we weren't exporting abortion," the cardinal recounted. "I said, 'Yes we are.'

There's nothing here that says Cardinal George was 'duped' by Obama's duplicity.

61 posted on 04/28/2009 1:09:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: wagglebee

Not Pro-Abortion????? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH.....WHO is he kidding...GOD??? God will NOT be mocked!!!


62 posted on 04/28/2009 1:10:21 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: hoe_cake
Does he think we’re fools?

I think yes. Honestly, I can't blame Zero, Rahm and Axelrod for thinking that. After all, he did win the election.

63 posted on 04/28/2009 1:11:13 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: MHGinTN

Cardinal George called him out Re: SLAVERY! Did you not read the article??


64 posted on 04/28/2009 1:11:16 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: wagglebee

Very interesting. I think Cardinal George gets it. Obama wants to be all things to all men, and so he lies without even thinking about it.

Narcissistic liar, indeed. Clinton had this same problem, but I think Obama is a lot worse.


65 posted on 04/28/2009 1:11:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jim Robinson

Zero got diverted by the opportunity to impose fascism, the death laws will come soon, as will the gulags.


66 posted on 04/28/2009 1:12:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MHGinTN

Read the article. Cardinal George clearly understood that Obama was lying to him, and made that clear to the priests he was talking to.


67 posted on 04/28/2009 1:13:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Narcissistic liar, indeed. Clinton had this same problem, but I think Obama is a lot worse.

Clinton was a blessing compared to Zero.

68 posted on 04/28/2009 1:13:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Typical leftist. Don’t judge me by what I do, but what I say. I guess he’s never heard the expression, “Actions speak louder than words.”


69 posted on 04/28/2009 1:30:26 PM PDT by lara
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To: Ditto

Okay... Roe v Wade = Dred Scott.....

the other cases may be overload, my point was that the SCOTUS is no stranger to making bad decisions.

Here we are on the side of Lincoln, and Obama is on the side of Stephen Douglass.


70 posted on 04/28/2009 1:37:43 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: wagglebee
Clinton was a blessing compared to Zero.

But proabortion, antigun, tax-n-spend, fornicate with the interns, destroy the military and intelligence community, sell secrets to the Chinese Clinton was an unmitigated curse.

71 posted on 04/28/2009 1:40:01 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Hence the term, “compared to.”


72 posted on 04/28/2009 1:40:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ethics
You can look at the 49 Obama-at-Notre-Dame-opposing bishops two ways:

I think it's most realistic to look at it the second way.

Bishops canonically have no authority outside of their own diocese, and they're very conscious of that. So they're vastly reluctant to appear to be nosing into another bishop's mandate.

The difference here is that these bishops see themselves as coming to the fore in support of a brother bishop. They're weighing in to say "You and your own selected canon lawyers don't interpret it that way, Fr. Jenkins? Well, we do. You need to ask your bishop, not your academic munchkins." Leading all of us to hope that they will enforce it that way in their own dioceses!

So this level of bishop activity is exceptionally good, and we can only press on strongly for more. So, have you contacted yours?

Catholic Bishops Alphabetically

Catholic Bishops by Diocese

Dioceses by State

On to 100%!

BTW, I'm posting here because the other thread was locked.

73 posted on 04/28/2009 1:49:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: wagglebee

I’m making clear what you’re comparing the Zero to ... there are young pups on this forum who have forgotten (or never knew) the horror of Xlintonism.


74 posted on 04/28/2009 1:49:58 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I’m making clear what you’re comparing the Zero to ... there are young pups on this forum who have forgotten (or never knew) the horror of Xlintonism.

I thought so, but as bad and the Arkansas Hillbillies were, Zero is FAR, FAR WORSE.

75 posted on 04/28/2009 1:51:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
“Catholic priests that Obama says he is not pro-abortion and will eventually work to reduce abortions.”

Oh crap, not that tired out old shibboleth again. If it's wrong it's wrong, reducing them doesn't make it less wrong.

76 posted on 04/28/2009 2:00:50 PM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: wagglebee
...Claims He's Not Pro-Abortion

Despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Clinton was a grat liar. Obama is just a liar.

Obama and Abortion


77 posted on 04/28/2009 2:00:57 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: wagglebee
Obortion Obama is not pro-abortion?

Then why are so many individuals upset that he has been invited to speak at Notre Dame, a Catholic University?


78 posted on 04/28/2009 2:08:25 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee

A Pro-Life Prayer For Our President And Public Officials

Baby with TearLord God, Author of Life and Source of Eternal Life,

Move the hearts of all our public officials and especially our President, to fulfill their responsibilities worthily and well to all those entrusted to their care.

Help them in their special leadership roles, to extend the mantle of protection to the most vulnerable, especially the defenseless unborn, whose lives are threatened with extermination by an indifferent society.

Guide all public officials by your wisdom and grace to cease supporting any law that fails to protect the fundamental good that is human life itself, which is a gift from God and parents.

You are the Protector and Defender of the lives of the innocent unborn. Change the hearts of those who compromise the call to protect and defend life. Bring our nation to the values that have made us a great nation, a society that upholds the values of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all.

Mary, the Mother of the living, help us to bear witness to the Gospel of Life with our lives and our laws, through Christ, Our Lord.

Amen.

 


79 posted on 04/28/2009 2:09:44 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee
Zero is FAR, FAR WORSE.

Yes, he is.

And before the (possibly fraudulent) election of Zero, I considered Xlinton to be the second worst president ever, and the worst person ever to be president.

80 posted on 04/28/2009 2:10:21 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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