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Catholic Cardinal Meets With Obama: Says President Claims He's Not Pro-Abortion
Life News ^ | 4/28/09 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/28/2009 11:50:36 AM PDT by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The president of the national conference of Catholic bishops recently elaborated further on the meeting he had in March with President Barack Obama. Cardinal George told a recent gathering of Catholic priests that Obama says he is not pro-abortion and will eventually work to reduce abortions.

For most pro-life advocates, Obama's extensive pro-abortion record of executive orders and key political appointments proves otherwise.

According to a Catholic News Service report, Cardinal Francis George discussed the conversation he had with Obama at a March 18 meeting at the White House.

"I think on the life issue he's on the wrong side of history," the cardinal said, but he added that Obama wants to make pro-life advocates appear as if he is on their side.

"It's hard to disagree with him because he'll always tell you he agrees with you," he said, according to CNS. "Maybe that's political. I think he sincerely wants to agree with you. You have to say, again and again, 'No, Mr. President, we don't agree (on abortion).'"

The Catholic News Service indicates Cardinal George said he told Obama he is concerned with the president's decision to overturn the Mexico City Policy and opening the door to funding groups that promote and perform abortions in other nations.

"He said we weren't exporting abortion," the cardinal recounted. "I said, 'Yes we are.' He would say, 'I know I have to do certain things here. ... But be patient and you'll see the pattern will change.' I said, 'Mr. President, you've given us nothing but the wrong signals on this issue.' So, we'll see, but I'm not as hopeful now as I was when he was first elected."

"I think he has his political debts to pay, and so he's paying them," Cardinal George said of the impression he was left with after the Obama meeting.

Ultimately, the Catholic pro-life leader cast a pessimistic view of the situation under Obama and the long-term outlook.

"I think we're up against something a little bit like slavery," he said, adding that Obama and abortion advocates are unwilling to change the law to protect human life before birth.

"It's a society-dividing issue, and on this issue, we're with Abraham Lincoln and he's with Stephen Douglas, and he doesn't like to hear that, but that's where he is," George said, according to CNS.

"For 80 years we were a slave republic, and it took a terrible war to end that. And now for 40 years we're in an abortion regime, and I'm not sure how that's going to end," he added.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; bhoabortion; catholic; moralabsolutes; obamatruthfile; prolife
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To: hoe_cake
Does he think we’re fools?

Yes ... and not without good reason.

He did get elected ...

41 posted on 04/28/2009 12:07:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: wagglebee

Sure and Volgas were excellent cars.


42 posted on 04/28/2009 12:07:43 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: wagglebee

Let’s see if the same logic of “not being for it” applies to rape.

I’m not for rape, but I think it should be legal. I’m not for rape, but if a woman manages to get free I think the she should be dragged back to the rapist. I’m not for rape, but I think rapists should be supported with tax dollars. I’m not for rape, but I think teenage boys should be taught in school how to get away with rape. I can prove I’m not for rape, because I’d like to see the number of rapes decreased, by increasing the number of women who voluntarily have intercourse.

There. Does that analogy about cover it?


43 posted on 04/28/2009 12:12:22 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: wagglebee
"I think he has his political debts to pay, and so he's paying them," Cardinal George

With due respect....Cardinal George either is an idiot...or not paying attention.

44 posted on 04/28/2009 12:12:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. - Will Rodgers)
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To: wagglebee

Cardinal George recognizes substance over words.


45 posted on 04/28/2009 12:15:20 PM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: wagglebee
That is spooky:

"It's hard to disagree with him because he'll always tell you he agrees with you," he said, according to CNS.

46 posted on 04/28/2009 12:19:53 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SampleMan

Yep, for years I’ve looked at the pro-aborts and said, “I’m ‘personally opposed’ to rape/murder/arson/robbery but don’t think it’s my place to try to keep others from committing rape/murder/arson/robbery.”

It simply DOES NOT WORK. If something is morally indefensible, then it is morally indefensible to not try to keep others from doing it.


47 posted on 04/28/2009 12:21:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
"It's hard to disagree with him because he'll always tell you he agrees with you," he said, according to CNS. "Maybe that's political. I think he sincerely wants to agree with you. You have to say, again and again, 'No, Mr. President, we don't agree (on abortion).'"

That's because That One is a slimy politician. Good for Cardinal George to make it perfectly CLEAR that neither he, nor the Church, agrees with That One in ANY way.

48 posted on 04/28/2009 12:26:23 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ditto

Roe v Wade = Dred Scott, Plessy v Ferguson, and Fred Korematsu combined


49 posted on 04/28/2009 12:40:56 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: reagandemocrat; Ditto

Don’t forget Buck v. Bell, that is another one of the SCOTUS “winners”.


50 posted on 04/28/2009 12:43:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: reagandemocrat

A Catholic Cardinal should not be this easy to lie to and dupe him. Sad no one has shown this Cardinal the truth regarding O bow ma’s (fourtimes) defense of murdering the just born alive in IL. Seems like the Cardinal has chosen to believe something he does not want challenged with facts.


51 posted on 04/28/2009 12:44:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: wagglebee
Anyone who thougth Obama would actually work to reduce or eliminate abortions is either a political simpleton or hopelessly naive.

He's a liar. I'll bet Cardinal George felt like he was conversing with Old Scratch himself.
52 posted on 04/28/2009 12:52:42 PM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: wagglebee
Obama Will Go down in History as a perpetrator of Infanticide of his own! Power over a moral stand!!
53 posted on 04/28/2009 12:53:11 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (May the good saints protect you & bless you today & may troubles ignore you Each step of the way)
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To: wagglebee

Ah yes, the great Oliver Wendell Holmes:

“We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, in order to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.”

Mindnumbing....


54 posted on 04/28/2009 12:53:36 PM PDT by reagandemocrat (Roe v Wade = Dred Scott, Plessy, Buck, and Korematsu combined.)
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To: wagglebee; reagandemocrat
I'd just leave it at Scott, which like Roe, holds that a certain class of people have absolutly no rights under the law.

I agree that the others were bad decisions as well, but not on the scale of Scott and Roe.

55 posted on 04/28/2009 12:58:23 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Antoninus

The conversation looks like an attempt to pin jello to the wall.


56 posted on 04/28/2009 1:00:05 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: reagandemocrat
Three generations of imbeciles are enough.
57 posted on 04/28/2009 1:00:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ditto

Good point.


58 posted on 04/28/2009 1:02:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
"I think on the life issue he's on the wrong side of history,"

B.O. is on the wrong side of God's laws which makes him a willing worker for the devil.

59 posted on 04/28/2009 1:03:56 PM PDT by Faith
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To: wagglebee

Obama promises to sign abortion forever law:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf0XIRZSTt8


60 posted on 04/28/2009 1:07:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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