Universality of the Genesis Flood

AiG ^ | Dr. John C. Whitcomb

[GodGunsGuts]

Noah’s Flood is critically important to the question of the age of the earth, as explains Dr. Terry Mortenson in this article on p. 62. For over eighteen centuries virtually all Christians understood Genesis to recount a universal Flood that completely covered the whole earth, leaving no dry land anywhere at the height of the event. However, during the past 200 years many Christians have been swayed by secular ideas and have abandoned the clear hermeneutic of Scripture for belief that the Flood was local and covered only the Mesopotamian Valley of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers (the area of modern-day Iraq). But such a view cannot stand under the careful scrutiny of Genesis 6–9. Consider these points...

[GodGunsGuts]

Ping!

[mamelukesabre]

So where did all this water come from and where did it go to after the flood was over? Presently, there doesn’t seem to be enough water on the whole planet to create a flood like that. And once the water recedes, wouldn’t all the fresh water on the planet now be contaminated with sea water? fresh water fish would die. Land covered in salt water would now be unusable for a variety of plantlife.

[stubernx98]

You question the Taliban?

[GodGunsGuts]

All good questions:

Where did the water come from?

“The mantle of the earth is over 2800 km thick. The upper mantle is known as the ‘depleted mantle’ becasue geologists believe material once came out from it onto the surface of the earth. There is still enough water in the mantle to fill the oceans ten times over”

http://biblicalgeology.net/Answer/Where-did-all-the-water-come-from.html

How Could Fish Survive the Genesis Flood?

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=351

Where did all the water go?

http://biblicalgeology.net/Answer/Where-did-all-the-water-go.html

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[pcottraux]

“The mantle of the earth is over 2800 km thick. The upper mantle is known as the ‘depleted mantle’ becasue geologists believe material once came out from it onto the surface of the earth. There is still enough water in the mantle to fill the oceans ten times over”

Interesting point, as the Bible actually does state that most of the water came from inside the earth, rather than from the skies.

[GodGunsGuts]

Good animation on the fountains of the great deep:

http://www.thetaxpayerschannel.org/graphics/creation/fonte23.mov

[OH4life]

Wow, that site is all kinds of crazy. Never heard of a little exaggerated story-telling before? Right, the flood covered the entire earth and then magically disappeared, the fish I caught was really 30 feet long, and that girl I met at the bar last night totally looked like a super model.

[Oztrich Boy]

Interesting point, as the Bible actually does state that most of the water came from inside the earth, rather than from the skies.

"most of the the water"? is this from one of those special Creationist Bibles?

[GodGunsGuts]

I have yet to see you cite any evidence to falsify the Genesis flood. And who said anything about the water disappearing? Did you read the link re: “Where did all the water go?”

[Oztrich Boy]

"Then they'll lose viewers--people like to see this President talk."

Demunderground on FOX not dropping normal programming to cover the Obama presser

[Moonman62]

during the past 200 years many Christians have been swayed by secular ideas

"Secular ideas" must be a secret YEC'er phrase for knowledge and truth.

[pcottraux]

Well, I don’t know about a special Creationist Bible, but Genesis 7:11 says that “the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.” Then verse 12 says that “And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.” At the end of the chapter, in verse 24, we find that the entire flood lasted 150 days altogether. That leaves us with 110 days of the flood with no rain...that’s a lot of water that didn’t come from above.

[Semper Mark]

According to the Bible, it came from the inside of the earth, and from the skies.

“In the sixth hundreth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all of the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights”

Gen. 7:11-12

“The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;”

Gen. 8:2

[Oztrich Boy]

Genesis 8:2 the fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained, 3 and the waters receded from the earth continually. At the end of a hundred and fifty days the waters had abated;

[pcottraux]

I was referring to where the majority of the water came from, not what happened at the end of the flood. As I take it, most of the water came from inside the earth, with much of it coming from the skies, too. I find it interesting that the Bible refers to the fountains of the deep opening up, instead of just saying that it was all rain.

[ninergold3]

Very interesting - and timely post! We are studying the book of Genesis in our Thursday night Bible Study. Last week our Pastor spoke of Noah and the great flood.

I wound up with 10 PAGES of notes!

[Oztrich Boy]

As I take it, most of the water came from inside the earth

Take it as you like, but the literal reading does not support it.

[count-your-change]

Then what do think is being said?