Posted on 04/21/2009 9:25:25 AM PDT by Hawk720
Social conservatives tolerated John McCain as the party's nominee, but never trusted him, and he now appears to be facing a serious primary from the right in Arizona next year.
Chris Simcox, the founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps and a prominent figure in the anti-immigration movement, is announcing today he's resigned from the group to run in the 2010 Senate primary.
From a forthcoming release:
"John McCain has failed miserably in his duty to secure this nation's borders and protect the people of Arizona from the escalating violence and lawlessness," Simcox said. "He has fought real efforts over the years at every turn, opting to hold our nation's border security hostage to his amnesty schemes. Coupled with his votes for reckless bailout spending and big government solutions to our nation's problems, John McCain is out of touch with everyday Arizonans. Enough is enough."
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
It was funny that Simcox was on Fox this morning and they asked McCain to come on and he refused. I was afraid Simcox would hire people to work for his campaign who would cause him to be looked at as a fringe candidate, but smartly he seems to be going after some of the movers and shakers in teh state to help him... his advisor said they plan to work to bring back in all the Republicans who re-registered independents because of McCain and Kyl.
That’s weird, I didn’t think I hit the post button twice.
I didn’t comment on the Goldwater topic.
I respected Senator Goldwater. In his later years he made some interesting decisions, but I don’t think any of us is spot on with regard to every issue over time.
It’s somewhat sad when I see someone I’ve had a lot of respect for over the years, come out on the wrong side of an issue.
For instance, I never agreed with Reagan that a zero nuclear weapons option was ever going to be a same approach to our defense needs. That being said, Ronald Reagan would never have let our defenses down foolishly. He would have been unable to implement the zero option, and would have been sad about it, but he would never have done it in today’s world. At least that’s my take on it.
I view Barry in pretty much the same way. I respect him, but I didn’t agree with everything he said.
With McCain it’s the opposite. I don’t trust a thing the guy says. And over time, just because he makes a mistake and says something we like, we know it was a mistake and he’ll be back to his same old self in moments.
That’s a good plan. I haven’t heard Simcox much. When I have heard him, I’ve been impressed by his instincts, not allowing himself to be cornered saying something inappropriate. As for his MinuteMan project, I think he did a good job, keeping the riff raff out for the most part.
In this day and age, I cannot believe that a guy like him would have a hard time garnering a large following. Kudos to him and I wish him every good break on the path he has selected.
BTW, when it comes time next spring, I will try to make it over to help out for a few days. Keep me in mind.
A friend was telling me a few minutes ago that AZ minutemen groups are gearing up to help Simcox and whoever declares against Harry Reid, too.... things may be looking up...
Lovely, just lovely. Another candidate with “baggage”.
I don’t know if all the claims in that article are true. Probably not.
But is it true that he’s been divorced twice? That he was violent with one of his exes? That he’s estranged from his son and daughter? Did he really try to join the Border Guard before his Minutemen efforts?
All of these things are pretty easily verifiable (or falsifiable) and would be slung like the mud they are in the primary. His politics now seem desirable, but if the portrait painted by that article are true, he’s pretty unstable and, as bad as McCain is wouldn’t be as unreliable. That is, at least we know that McCain is consistently RINO. Which is better, a consistent RINO or an inconsistent “conservative”?
All of this is just stemming from my frustration about not being able to (apparently) find any candidate for any public office without some kind of serious “baggage”. If I were involved in his campaign, I’d try to stem some of the mud from that article off at the pass, by having him address some of the more serious charges first, before McCain gets his hands on them.
But seriously, WHY can’t there be a candidate without baggage? I was just skimming through this thread to see if he had a website set up for donations yet.
*sigh*
all good points... I just think this could be interesting since Mcain loves to brag about holding this particular seat, if Goldwater relatives help take it back from McCain for someone else it strikes me as humerous.
< http://www.simcoxforsenate.com/index.php?p=biography
In the post that meandog posted. If you know him personally, you might want to alert him about that article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-potok
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-potok
First, let me say that what you just said is a very good rebuttal to the article in question, don’t get me wrong.
I’m just TIRED of having to apologize for every candidate I support. I’m just whining about the baggage. Again, what you said is a very good rebuttal, and I’d probably use it myself, but it doesn’t address every single point in the article.
For example, is it true that he was violent with his past 2 wives? Is it even true that he HAD 2 wives previously? Did he try to join the Border Patrol before his Minuteman efforts?
These are all questions that quite frankly, while may be “puffed up” by some leftist hack journalist, aren’t necessarily complete fabrications. After all, if they were/are, then Mr. Simcox has a pretty good case for libel against whoever wrote that piece.
Addendum to my post 132:
Apparently someone named Tim Vanderpool wrote the article meandog posted. Again, if the claims in the article are completely false, Mr. Simcox should be willing to at least say so publicly and quickly if not take Mr. Vanderpool to court.
I’m not trying to be a wet towel here, but really, again, I’m tired of being these potential candidates’ apologists. I’ll BET you this stuff is gonna come out in the primaries.
Thanks for the link.
I see nothing anywhere on there that talks about the fund raising for the fence Simcox was going to build. How did that come out? What did he do with the $$? Did he ever disclose his financials from that deal?
While I agree, that ANYONE is better than McCain, I would think Arizona could do better than Simcox. He’s exactly what the left/McCain would like to take down.
I sure hope so.
No doubt about it, that would be the icing on the cake.
Love it.
D1
The general consensus of opinion on McCain here is he has forgotten about the people of Arizona .... the very people who sent him to Washington to represent our interests.... that he is only focused on national and foreign issues. McCain dislikes having to deal with the citizens back here because, frankly we are too right wing for his tastes out here.... his daughter and here beliefs didn't fall all that far from the old tree.
As for Simcox, I've been searching and there isn't a lot of info pro or con on him, I think it will start to bubble out, but one thing that is interesting, he can't be too stupid, he has managed to wrest control of the AZ GOP out of the total control of John McCain and without that accomplishment no one would have been able to challenge McCain.
BTW over at Redstate they are not pleased that McCain is being challenged the same time as Specter is being challenged.... guess we can't handle changing to old farts in one election term.
Folks, CONTROL THE LOCAL AND YOU CONTROL THE NATIONAL PARTY.
Remember, the RINOs count on outside the base money. However they can’t save ALL the RINOs.
There is Specter, McCain, and in the open seat in FL there is crist.
By controling the locals WE CONTROL the volunteers, WE CONTROL the local constributions, WE CONTROL the absentee ballots for the senior homes...
Hooray! I'm all for that!
BTW over at Redstate they are not pleased that McCain is being challenged the same time as Specter is being challenged.... guess we can't handle changing to old farts in one election term. "
I suppose it's some of that 'the devil you know vs. the devil you don't'. Same reason women stay with men that abuse them. It's all pretty primitive if you ask me. We really aren't picking our leaders any better than they did hundreds of years ago...instead we still let them divide us up in 'camps'.
We the people? More like We the R's, the D's, the gays, the blacks, the hispanics, the north, the south, the muslims, the catholics, the mormons....ad finitum!
And the best they can agree on is the John McCain's of this country?? Primitive.
Please Arizona, get rid of McCain, but be careful what you wish for.
I’m reading there is someone else going to throw in the battle as well. Personally, I think we all would be better to watch, read, separate truth from fiction and then decide by next year’s primary what is what, best of all, however, is McCain is going to have to show up and answer for himself here..... something he has not had to do in many, many years... he looks down on the people he represents and everyone knows it.
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