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Someone sent this to me via email. The guy in the video appears credible.
1 posted on 04/16/2009 12:43:28 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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If he was a drug dealer the Border Agent would probably be in solitary confinement by now.


2 posted on 04/16/2009 12:47:46 PM PDT by exist
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If this story is true (I certainly don’t know that it is), it will be interesting if anything happens to the BP agents, and if so, which side the FR crowd will side with.


3 posted on 04/16/2009 12:48:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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He's a Baptist Preacher for crying out loud, I'm pretty sure that makes him a terrorist, the agents were just doing their jobs as described by the Department of Homeland Security.
4 posted on 04/16/2009 12:49:53 PM PDT by txroadkill (Tax Day Tea Parties 4/15/09 - - The day we won one for the Gipper.)
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I can’t imagine them doing that to a person with Hispanic features.


5 posted on 04/16/2009 12:51:46 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Sprechen sie Austrian?)
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This guy needs to learn how to pick his battles. Imagine the cry that FReepers would let out if the gov’t decided they weren’t going to search or inspect anyone at the border.


6 posted on 04/16/2009 12:52:34 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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I told them I was a US citizen.

The first thing he says in his video was that he refused to answer their questions. I wonder which statement is correct.

8 posted on 04/16/2009 12:57:21 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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I heard the description of this episode at the Tea Party in Gilbert AZ yesterday.....I am amazed.
Do you suppose they Border Patrol read the DHS report and were concerned that he might be a right wing extremist?


9 posted on 04/16/2009 12:58:19 PM PDT by azkathy (Branded by the Rodeo Chediski Fire)
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Another person who, for some reason, keeps thinking that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are still valid.


11 posted on 04/16/2009 12:59:31 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Fire All Congress Members)
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Are we certain that he is a Reverend? If he had nothing to hide why did he challenge the BP agents with the 4th Amendment. If you are a border checkpoint, car searches are a reasonable request.


18 posted on 04/16/2009 1:08:36 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Let the Revolution Commence!!!)
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What does being a Baptist preacher have to do with this story?
Bread delivery man beaten and tazed by Border patrol....

The red flags go up with these stories when it’s made to imply a pastor has been targeted for his faith.

Does that excuse how he was treated? No.
Do you expect kid glove treatment from Border patrol officers that have one of the most frustrating jobs on earth? No.
I wouldn’t mess with those guys. I would get after our elected officials who will not enforce immigration laws.


20 posted on 04/16/2009 1:13:02 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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Is the Pastor’s church in favor of open borders? Looks like he was setting himself up in order to blast the BP.


22 posted on 04/16/2009 1:13:49 PM PDT by joeu01
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and I invoked my 4th am...

SCOTUS has spoken on this issue. The 4th does not apply when crossing an international border into the US.

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26 posted on 04/16/2009 1:16:57 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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There shouldn’t be checkpoints inside the border. The Border Patrol is, IMHO, a largely good outfit with a tough job, but they have no business doing these checkpoints inside the borders, merely between two U.S. cities.

AT the border, where these guys are trained to operate, there IS no 4th amendment. There is no requirement for probable cause for a search AT THE BORDER. They’re the wrong people to be doing law enforcement anywhere else.

They should be at the borders where they are badly needed. Maybe a case like this (and this guy has an excellent case) could put a stop to this, if he pursues it.


29 posted on 04/16/2009 1:18:28 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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We have a fourth amendment right against UNREASONABLE search and seizure of our persons papers and effects.

Someone crossing an international border into the USA is a valid State REASON for searching.

Is this guy trying to agitate for no border inspections as a sort of Huckabee ‘it would be un-Christian to deny them the full rights and benefits of living in the USA’ ploy?

What an idiotic tool.

“Don't taze me bro!”

31 posted on 04/16/2009 1:21:41 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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Yes, the guy is a real Baptist pastor, and I have little doubt what he is saying is basically true.

I'm pretty sure these border agents had a vendetta against him because of this:

Earlier incident with the same guy.

33 posted on 04/16/2009 1:22:29 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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Here’s a great idea. Cross the border, Load up your truck with paying illegals come back to the US. If you get stopped, invoke the 4th and drive on.


40 posted on 04/16/2009 1:28:21 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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The 4th amendment is a joke. I am taking Criminal Justice and they tell us “If you say they can’t search your car or home, you are assumed guilty. Not technically of course...”


44 posted on 04/16/2009 1:32:22 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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If that is true, it is the most disgusting thing i have seen in as long as i can remember.

that needs to turn into a lawsuit!


51 posted on 04/16/2009 1:38:05 PM PDT by KarenMarie
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Bottom line ... this pastor had a thing about free Americans being able to travel freely within the U.S. without having to present papers or be subject to searches with no warrant or reasonable ground of suspicion.

He had had run-ins with the border patrol before at various checkpoints (see the video I linked above).

Personally, I’m more appreciative of the work of the border patrol and would have been more cooperative ... but I understand his point.

I strongly suspect that these agents had it out for him because of his prior encounters with them or their buddies ... and it would appear they fabricated a drug-sniffing dog “positive” to give them some grounds for humiliating him.

Again, this was NOT a border crossing ... it was a U.S. citizen travelling within the U.S. with no reasonable ground of suspicion to justify a search of his person or vehicle.


52 posted on 04/16/2009 1:38:05 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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Hmmm. Only some agents in San Diego and Tuscon have tasers. Tasers are not yet an issued item.


54 posted on 04/16/2009 1:41:31 PM PDT by Ajnin
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