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To: the_Watchman

This guy needs to learn how to pick his battles. Imagine the cry that FReepers would let out if the gov’t decided they weren’t going to search or inspect anyone at the border.


6 posted on 04/16/2009 12:52:34 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

I take a pretty dim view of beating someone to a pulp just because they thought citizens still had rights in this nation.

I’m sure some court or another has made the Fourth Amendment rights in cases like this, all but null and void. That still doesn’t mean law enforcement should be able to do more damage than was necessary to this person’s vehicle, or inflict pain and physical abuse on this person.

One window should have been broken to gain access. This person should have been removed from the vehicle. If he fought, then he should expect to have some form of injury while being brought under control. There wasn’t any reason whatsoever to drag his head along the windowsill with broken glass. There was no reason to stomp his head into the ground.

Look, law enforcement may not like the fact that citizens mention their rights, but when it gets to the level of teaching the guy a lesson, it’s gone out of control.

These officers should be prosecuted. And the observing highway patrol officer should have refused to detain the person based on the level of damage to the car and the suspect.

There was no probably cause. These guys just decided to F with the pastor.

There are ways to conduct incidents like this, and there are ways not to conduct them. This was over the top.


12 posted on 04/16/2009 1:01:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: SoothingDave
He wasn't at the border, but legal precedence allows the BP to set up checkpoints off the border in areas adjacent to the border where human smuggling is going on. He was on I-8 just north of Yuma. The illegals cross into the rural lands around Yuma and often times have transportation waiting near I-8 to continue their journey.

At those checkpoints the first question is "Are you a U.S. Citizen?" That is the only question I've ever been asked, and I've never been sent to secondary. Anybody here been sent to secondary at one of these checkpoints? I've been secondaried several times at the border.

13 posted on 04/16/2009 1:05:01 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SoothingDave

He never crossed the border. He was IN the US the whole time.


16 posted on 04/16/2009 1:08:30 PM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: SoothingDave
This guy needs to learn how to pick his battles. Imagine the cry that FReepers would let out if the gov’t decided they weren’t going to search or inspect anyone at the border.

That is the point. He wasn't crossing the border. He was driving inside the state of Arizona. This was an illegal checkpoint with illegal actions on the part of the border patrol.

17 posted on 04/16/2009 1:08:34 PM PDT by ibheath (Stand ready to fight the coming madness.)
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To: SoothingDave
Imagine the cry that FReepers would let out if the gov’t decided they weren’t going to search or inspect anyone at the border.

He wasn't at "the border", you moron.

Learn to read.

25 posted on 04/16/2009 1:16:17 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: SoothingDave
"Imagine the cry that FReepers would let out..."

Are you brain damaged? Do you really think that anyone other than DU trolls are going to support or demand that the government disregard the constitution and physically assault citizens?

27 posted on 04/16/2009 1:17:53 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: SoothingDave

He wasn’t at the Border.

He was traveling from San Diego to Phoenix.

The Border Patrol is out of control. They are victimizing regular Americans and letting the illegals alone.


53 posted on 04/16/2009 1:41:24 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: SoothingDave

YOU UNDOUBTEDLY HAVE NEVER BEEN SINGLED OUT BY THE MAN.


77 posted on 04/16/2009 2:07:33 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: SoothingDave

Six posts before a “you are going to get raped might as well lay back and enjoy it” post.


156 posted on 04/17/2009 5:34:33 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Somali want a cracker?)
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