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To: SoothingDave

I take a pretty dim view of beating someone to a pulp just because they thought citizens still had rights in this nation.

I’m sure some court or another has made the Fourth Amendment rights in cases like this, all but null and void. That still doesn’t mean law enforcement should be able to do more damage than was necessary to this person’s vehicle, or inflict pain and physical abuse on this person.

One window should have been broken to gain access. This person should have been removed from the vehicle. If he fought, then he should expect to have some form of injury while being brought under control. There wasn’t any reason whatsoever to drag his head along the windowsill with broken glass. There was no reason to stomp his head into the ground.

Look, law enforcement may not like the fact that citizens mention their rights, but when it gets to the level of teaching the guy a lesson, it’s gone out of control.

These officers should be prosecuted. And the observing highway patrol officer should have refused to detain the person based on the level of damage to the car and the suspect.

There was no probably cause. These guys just decided to F with the pastor.

There are ways to conduct incidents like this, and there are ways not to conduct them. This was over the top.


12 posted on 04/16/2009 1:01:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I haven’t seen the video, and if your description is accurate, it sounds like police overkill.

That said, someone who decides to play martyr at the border is an idiot. Do you think people should be allowed to not cooperate with border security? I don’t.

This guy can have all the 4th amendment rights he wants when he is in the country. At the border he’s just being an ass with no leg to stand on.


14 posted on 04/16/2009 1:05:27 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: DoughtyOne

“One window should have been broken to gain access. This person should have been removed from the vehicle. If he fought, then he should expect to have some form of injury while being brought under control. There wasn’t any reason whatsoever to drag his head along the windowsill with broken glass. There was no reason to stomp his head into the ground.”

BULLSH*T!

You think for no reason whatsoever that a government agency can and should bust into an individual’s property just because they THINK something might be there?

What are you doing here at Free Republic?


46 posted on 04/16/2009 1:34:12 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: DoughtyOne; SoothingDave
Both of you guys are wrong. Picking your fights when you clearly have rights as a US citizen and chose to exercise them is BS. Saying that the 4th is null and void is also BS. I recently used my 4th amendment rights to keep police from searching my car. They didn't want to go to the trouble of calling a superior and waiting for a warrant, mainly because they knew they were in the wrong and that nothing worth finding was in my car.

I told them, and I will tell you, that the constitution wasn't written to protect criminals, it was written to protect citizens from over zealous minions of the law.

Don't like it, don't live here. We are fighting back and it is only a matter of time before ALL of our rights are restored.

124 posted on 04/16/2009 5:30:01 PM PDT by calex59
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