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To: DoughtyOne

I haven’t seen the video, and if your description is accurate, it sounds like police overkill.

That said, someone who decides to play martyr at the border is an idiot. Do you think people should be allowed to not cooperate with border security? I don’t.

This guy can have all the 4th amendment rights he wants when he is in the country. At the border he’s just being an ass with no leg to stand on.


14 posted on 04/16/2009 1:05:27 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

I agree that the situation would be different at the border, but he was not at the border. He was not “near” the border since he would have had to go through the city of Yuma to get to the border.


21 posted on 04/16/2009 1:13:18 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: SoothingDave

These border stops are far inside the nation. They may be as much as 25 to 50 miles from the border. There was no probable cause. They refused to bring the dog back out for the suspect and the state highway patrol officer. That alone should tell you something.

These guys were out of control. Like I said, there are ways to effect arrest that don’t involve having to tazer the suspect or cut them up. These guys wanted to F this guy over so severely, that he would be an object less for any other person passing through the check-point.

I am one vicious son of a gun when it comes to illegal immigration. Don’t think I’m going soft here because I don’t believe in the check-point concept. I just also happen to believe that Citizens have rights. And this guy should not have been given the full court press once the dog passed on the car.

And these officer refusing to bring the dog back out, was an admission that the dog did pass on the vehicle.

You watch how quickly all the videos disappear here. It’s almost certain not one will survive.


23 posted on 04/16/2009 1:14:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: SoothingDave
"This guy can have all the 4th amendment rights he wants when he is in the country..."

Unless you have a different map I think the area north of Yuma is still "in this country".

34 posted on 04/16/2009 1:22:34 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: SoothingDave

>I haven’t seen the video, and if your description is accurate, it sounds like police overkill.

You should.

>This guy can have all the 4th amendment rights he wants when he is in the country. At the border he’s just being an ass with no leg to stand on.

He WAS in the us, this was NOT a border-crossing.


45 posted on 04/16/2009 1:33:02 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SoothingDave

Reread the posts prior to yours, even if you chose to not watch the video - he was NOT at the border.


164 posted on 04/17/2009 10:23:53 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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