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1 posted on 04/15/2009 4:51:28 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Well now gee! If Bob Shrum sez so, it MUST be true...


2 posted on 04/15/2009 4:53:22 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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Has Bob Schrum ever run a success campaign ? - no.


3 posted on 04/15/2009 4:53:38 PM PDT by Perdogg (University of North Carolina - 2009 NCAA basketball champs)
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It’s dead, Jim. And, I say that as one who has been an activist and GOPer for over 35 years.


4 posted on 04/15/2009 4:53:41 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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I remember these guys saying the same thing in 1993.

The thing is, he will still receive a paycheck when he is wrong.


5 posted on 04/15/2009 4:54:39 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Conservatives see untapped potential. Liberals see Tapped-out hopelessness.)
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He's probably right on the demographics point. The country is being flooded by immigrants, legal and not, and they are firmly in the lib-Rat camp because of two words: free money. We're probably going to be outnumbered for awhile, until things get so bad the remainder of what was formerly the middle class white people will get fed up enough to be in a more or less revolutionary mood. But it may be too late then to save what was once a great Republic.
6 posted on 04/15/2009 4:55:57 PM PDT by chimera
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The a$$hole is right. We are irrelevant at present, as presently constituted. However — if this Texas thing gets some wings, we could have a huge red-state impact; one like we’ve not seen since the Civil War.


7 posted on 04/15/2009 4:55:59 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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Who is Bob Shrum? Is he the token “conservative” for someone?


8 posted on 04/15/2009 4:56:25 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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He may be right, only because the percentage of people who pay no income tax is pretty large anymore. They don’t vote conservative.


10 posted on 04/15/2009 4:57:18 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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Racial politics, illegals, vote fraud, and wealth transfers make up a formidable coalition. It will take Divine providence and a lot of hard work to overcome it.


11 posted on 04/15/2009 4:57:56 PM PDT by nascarnation
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This is encouraging news.


12 posted on 04/15/2009 4:58:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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Bob Shrum is a professional spinmeister. Please. The generic party ballot is showing Republicans equal or better than Democrats. You better believe they are quakingin their boots. This is a set up to repeat 1994. Of course, they have to say it is not the same. I think it will be even bigger, given the public protests.


14 posted on 04/15/2009 4:58:43 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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It may be the better that we’ve moved beyond simple ‘anti-taxism’: we’re back to a Reaganesque small government and liberty agenda—and that, I believe, is a winner.

(The Republicans’ problem, of course, is that so few of their elected officials adhere to such Reaganesque principles...)


17 posted on 04/15/2009 4:59:46 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Well, since taxpayers are no longer a majority, he might have a point...


22 posted on 04/15/2009 5:02:12 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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Either he and his fellow socialists are attempting to downplay the growing movement because they are worried and are desperate or they are underestimating the growing movement. Hopefully it’s the latter so they will continue to let their guard down.


23 posted on 04/15/2009 5:02:19 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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Why would we take any advice from the Shroom?


24 posted on 04/15/2009 5:02:20 PM PDT by GeronL (TYRANNY SENTINEL. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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Let's see what happens to today's college students when they find out in four years that they can't get a job because: 1) they're not there anymore, 2) an illegal is doing it, 3) a legal H-1B is doing it for less.

There will reach a point where college grads can't find a job, and then they will blame the government, too.

-PJ

25 posted on 04/15/2009 5:03:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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He says conservatives are a dying breed and will not be an electoral force anytime soon.

If Shrum predicts as well as he runs presidential campaigns...

But I think those who believe some great realignment took place with the 2008 election are mistaken. Obama won because he was black. The white guilt vote is what really gave him a winning margin, and some additional participation by blacks. Many whites felt it said something good about themselves and about their country if the first black president was elected.

The white guilt vote was probably good for one election, and we'll learn in next two to four years whether any significant realignment of coalitions and groups has actually taken place.

I believe Bush's unpopularity, opposition to Iraq, and Bush and Rove's trying to push amnesty time and again, wild spending, and other factors just demoralized and weakened the Republican party, and also caused the loss of some independent voters.

That, and the white guilt factor are not the ingredients of a long-term shift in political alignments.

26 posted on 04/15/2009 5:03:59 PM PDT by Will88
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During the first 6 years of Bush the Congress spent like drunken sailors (my apologies to sailors, since they only use their own money), they pretty much lost the fiscal conservative and libertarian wings of the party.

However, with Obama spending like the world is ending in 2012 (due to the Mayan long count calendar ending), Republicans may get back in as being the lesser of two evils. One thing Americans hate is high inflation, and I think Obama is going to deliver big time on that.
27 posted on 04/15/2009 5:04:58 PM PDT by microgood
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He cited demographics

Demographics are destiny. The people who consume and take from government largess are on the verge of outnumbering those forced to pay into the system. Once that occurs, the conservative movement (at least on fiscal issues) will cease to be a political force with any power. Our only option will be to "Shrug" and refuse to work and continue to feed the welfare state engine.

29 posted on 04/15/2009 5:07:09 PM PDT by Chet 99
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Let’s show this bum he’s wrong.


35 posted on 04/15/2009 5:09:58 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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