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Former SEAL: Taking-out pirates holding American captain "not an operational problem"
Fox News Live | 4/12/09

Posted on 04/12/2009 7:10:30 AM PDT by pabianice

Fox just interviewed off screen a former SEAL regarding why the Somali pirates are being allowed to take the kidnapped US merchant captain to Somalia. In his words, 'this is not an operational issue.' In other words, Obama is ordering that no action be taken until he can get permission from the 'international community.' The SEAL noted that they have been training for just this situation since 1981.

Meanwhile, the French rescue their people.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 444; bo; coward; piracy; pirates; seals
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To: Kansas58

“I am hopeful that Gates might resign in disgust at some point.”

One of the talk show hosts last week (Levin, I believe) said that Gates has no ideals, but will go with the flow — as long as the paychecks keep rolling in. So, doubtful that he’ll “resign in disgust”.


161 posted on 04/12/2009 8:51:02 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: pabianice
OK
I am getting madder by the minute.
I know some former seals and they would RIOT at this situation.
The Seal team is 100% capable of handling this situation without any harm to the hostage. They train daily for just this type of situation. Somebody (BOMA) is holding them back. The longer this goes on the costlier it will be.
Not $$ cost but lives. Don't think for one minute that the World isn't watching and getting ideas.
We must destroy once and for all the Pirates and their bases.
162 posted on 04/12/2009 8:52:28 AM PDT by DeaconRed (The Situation is 100 Times worse than we ever imagined. BO Has Got to GO! ! ! FUBO)
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To: MayflowerMadam

In other words, Gates is a whore.


163 posted on 04/12/2009 8:53:27 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: eastforker

Reuters on speed dial? Probably so.


164 posted on 04/12/2009 8:54:22 AM PDT by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: MHGinTN

Ok, so we went from Monday night to Tuesday. Fair enough. Doesn’t change the fact that they still have to get the hostage off the boat. This creates the opportunity for a strike.

Since it is a given on this board that because we cannot see the hijackers or the hostage, there will be no attempt for a sea rescue. That leaves either a rescue in port or a rescue once the hijackers get the hostage inland. We already concluded that once the hostage is inland, it is game, set and match.

Which leaves either a port rescue or a ransom to be paid. As a RAT strategist, where would the President and the MSM get the biggest bang for the buck?

And to go back to the orignial point, “Never let a crises go to waste.” This puts us into Wednesday, the day of the Tea Parties.


165 posted on 04/12/2009 8:55:57 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Bow down to me. I am TOTUS.)
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To: dfwgator

“In other words, Gates is a whore.”

That’s pretty much what I inferred from the statement. Sad that there are any in military service who won’t put America first.


166 posted on 04/12/2009 8:57:04 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: clamper1797

I would think that thermal imaging would pick out all the bodies. Just don’t shoot at the fat one.


167 posted on 04/12/2009 8:57:07 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Bow down to me. I am TOTUS.)
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To: NordP

I lifted this for a tagline


168 posted on 04/12/2009 8:58:32 AM PDT by DeLaine (the POTUS needs to born in the USA. 0bama has no idea whose side heÂ’s on. We are under occupation.)
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To: Bean Counter

“So what do you all propose Obama do?? 1. Please take a look at picture of the type of lifeboat we are discussing. It is completely enclosed, and there is no way to “pick them off” because the targets are completely obscured by the lifeboat itself.”

Thermal imaging. Don’t shoot the fat guy.


169 posted on 04/12/2009 8:59:14 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Bow down to me. I am TOTUS.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

obummer would have Blackwater prosecuted. We have become the enemies. The terrorists are now being let go and we will be the prosecuted ones.


170 posted on 04/12/2009 8:59:33 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen (I'M COOLER ON LINE.)
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To: Bean Counter
It can be towed.
It can be tossed like a cork by ships' wakes.
It might be unsinkable but water would enter if holed.
Divers could attach sea-anchors to it to slow the drift.
USS Bainbridge etc could do everything they can to keep them awake etc etc

Lots of possibilities, given the will to do them.
I bet the Navy guys on the scene are screaming in frustration.

171 posted on 04/12/2009 8:59:35 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: MayflowerMadam
(Our workforce was primarily SEIU, and my boss wasn’t happy when I referred to them as “organized crime” in a staff meeting.)

And you made it to retirement? In my government employee days, speaking honestly was a firing offense. Got canned for that back in the 60's, best thing an employer ever did for me!

172 posted on 04/12/2009 9:00:09 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

>> 40 miles out to sea without power to their craft?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2227300/posts?page=60#60

>> And who is to say we couldn’t take them out when they get to shore? At that time the pirates and the hostage are exposed.

I suggest you have another look at the last presidential election results, consider what a total clueless pussy the current POTUS is, stop dreaming, and face reality.


173 posted on 04/12/2009 9:01:27 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: pabianice

We worry about how not to upset somebody.
They worry about how to kill us.

We lost, folks. It’s all over except the bloodshed part.


174 posted on 04/12/2009 9:01:51 AM PDT by djf (Live quiet. Dream loud.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

“And you made it to retirement?”

Yes. Just. My paperwork had already been processed. I HATED THAT F’ING JOB!!! I still get ill when I think about the place, and it’s been almost a year since I left.


175 posted on 04/12/2009 9:02:40 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: machogirl

Most definately!. Earlier reports was by reuters reporter talking to pirate representative by SAT phone.These pirates are not dummies. They can operate communications equipment, navigate large ships,internet capable and why not, they have ransomed millions of dollars from the shipping industry for years, being able to buy the best equipment around.


176 posted on 04/12/2009 9:03:01 AM PDT by eastforker (.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Since it is a given on this board that because we cannot see the hijackers or the hostage, there will be no attempt for a sea rescue.” You have no idea what you’re talking about. Your data set is obsolete. And your application of R. Emanuel’s quote is a bit off the mark ... the O bow ma administration IS using this crisis, to emasculate the Navy/military. But don’t let reality intrude on your fantasies. [ HINT: Law enforcement has for a number of years had ‘see through’ capabilities which expose the interior of this dingy, and the profiles of the inside persons tells them precisely where in that craft the captian is located. ]


177 posted on 04/12/2009 9:06:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: clamper1797
Put aside the speculation ... my good friend who is a former Seal Team one says that they practiced for this very scenario with exactly this type of boat MANY times. He says the taking this boat is extremely easy with the tactics they use

I've known SEALs as well, and agree. Served with them for years. They have the training, gear and drive to have this done and over with quickly. The only thing on earth capable of stopping them would be orders.
And the only order that makes any tactical sense would be to use this situation to lure more pirates into the area to wipe them all out in one simultaneous assault. The naval vessels can jam all signals from their satelite phones, but they don't. WHY?

However, considering who's in the WH...
I don't see this happening.
178 posted on 04/12/2009 9:08:17 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I was out with Mrs Clamper on the bike yesterday at our favorite watering hole. This is where we ran into my Seal friend who BTW was also a district commander of the American Legion.

As we discussed the topic one of the other bar patrons chimed in that he thought FUBO was doing a good job ... to which I replied ... yeah a good job of destroying this country ... to which he replied well he inherited all his problems ... at that point my seal friend and I walked out to the patio as Mrs Clamper and my friends lady continued to debate the idiot. My New Years resolution is ... no more bar fights. I was 86'ed out of that bar once before for one I didn't start ... but finished ... so we went outside before the temptation to thottle the idiot overcame us.

179 posted on 04/12/2009 9:10:37 AM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... protege of the unholy union of Karl Marx and affirmative action)
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To: Bean Counter

So what do you all propose Obama do??


Divers could tie an underwater line to the propeller section and tow the boat back into the open ocean where there will be larger swells isolating the pirates even further from the mainland.


180 posted on 04/12/2009 9:14:12 AM PDT by eaglestar
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