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Why Obama's Saudi Bow was Not a Kow-Tow (MSM admits he bowed, but it's Okay!)
Time Magazine ^ | April 10, 2009 | Scott MacLeod

Posted on 04/11/2009 12:15:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama definitely bowed down when he shook the hand of Saudi Arabian King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al-Saud at the G-20 in London last week. Despite the continuing outrage of conservatives and Arab-bashers, what Obama did was entirely appropriate, too. Here's my guide to Arabian royal protocol and American common sense.

In the videotape zapping around the Internet, Obama looks slightly awkward, as if he wasn't quite sure whether to bow, shake hands or do both. It turned out to be a deep bow- cum-handshake, it was certainly more than the nod-handshake he gave Queen Elizabeth II, but it was not quite a formal diplomatic bow from the waist. Maybe that's why the White House is, unofficially, denying the Obama bow.

A simple handshake would have sufficed. Obama certainly did not need to bow at all, as far as Saudi royal protocol is concerned. I have attended Abdullah's majlis in Riyadh a few times and witnessed his own personal distaste for obsequious shows of respect. In the context of a tribal society, Abdullah is a sheikh, indeed the sheikh of sheikhs, and as such his subjects would typically greet him at his Saudi-style town meetings with a kiss on the shoulder and a kiss on the hand.

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The Saudi leads a society that is steeped in custom, even if he himself is trying to loosen tradition a bit. As a much younger man, even if he is president of the world's most powerful country, Obama is entirely proper in showing pointed respect for an elder counterpart. Moreover, Abdullah holds a variety of positions that deserve and require recognition-king; custodian of the holy mosques of Mecca and Medina; elder statesman of the Arab world; son of the founder of his country.

(Excerpt) Read more at mideast.blogs.time.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bowgate; first100days; g20; islam; obama; obamabow; obamatruthfile
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To: Wil H

Not only that, they lie themselves. His hand was at his side during the bow as is proper for a slave.


21 posted on 04/11/2009 12:41:05 AM PDT by Ingtar (Americans have truly let America down. A sad day.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the King would have turned around, it would have been a royal ass kissing!


22 posted on 04/11/2009 12:43:17 AM PDT by Obamageddon (This will all end with show trials and piano wire!)
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To: tacticalogic
“Now that they’ve explained the bow, let’s see them explain the White House lying about it.”
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Exactly, great point!

23 posted on 04/11/2009 12:45:38 AM PDT by RepublicanChick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“.....what Obama did was entirely appropriate, too.”

So then why did his administration lie about it, twice that I know of, while he stayed hidden?


24 posted on 04/11/2009 12:45:55 AM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“.... he wasn’t quite sure whether to bow, shake hands or do both. It turned out to be a deep bow- cum-handshake”
So it was Obama’s brilliant cum-handshake and not just a dumb move. Big deal. Thw way the King waved Obama off he was probably thinking that it was Obama’s brilliant Larry Sinclair imitation. “Time” can take an incident that might have been for a maybe wisecrack and turn it into some contorted inanity that uses enough paper to destroy a rain forest.

Justice would have been better served if the Iraqis, instead of simply hanging Saddam Hussein, had sentenced him to a lifetime of reading Time magazine.


25 posted on 04/11/2009 12:56:50 AM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘The Saudi leads a society that is steeped in custom, even if he himself is trying to loosen tradition a bit. As a much younger man, even if he is president of the world’s most powerful country, Obama is entirely proper in showing pointed respect for an elder counterpart.”

Uh no he’s not. Its not appropriate for the President to bow to any person on the planet. most especially the leader of the muslim world funding attacks on the US.


26 posted on 04/11/2009 12:59:15 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tacticalogic
Now that they’ve explained the bow, let’s see them explain the White House lying about it.

It's only servility. Everybody lies about servility.

27 posted on 04/11/2009 1:00:37 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (What's Black and White and Red all over?)
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To: what's up

‘Oshama, if representing the US, should be bowing to NO INDIVIDUAL in the world. “

And that just goes to show Obama does not understand what America is all about. Pathetic amateur who is working hard to destroy that which he does not understand.


28 posted on 04/11/2009 1:02:45 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

29 posted on 04/11/2009 1:03:32 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Lie? What Lie? Do you see a lie? Where? Biden says there was no lie.


30 posted on 04/11/2009 1:03:40 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“conservatives and Arab-bashers”

OUT-F-ING-RAGEOUS.


31 posted on 04/11/2009 1:14:01 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Talisker

Of course this is nonsensical since Zer0 broke
tradition with the Queen of England.

Pure garbage. Where’s Zero’s prayer rug?


32 posted on 04/11/2009 1:16:58 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama was bowing because he thought the Saudi was one of the judges on American Idol.
33 posted on 04/11/2009 1:24:35 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Oliver North: OK, So Obama Didn't Bow -- He Curtsied


34 posted on 04/11/2009 1:26:05 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As a much younger man, even if he is president of the world's most powerful country, Obama is entirely proper in showing pointed respect for an elder counterpart.

Funny, I don't remember him bowing to McCain during the debates ( they were both senators and McCain was his elder counterpart ). For that matter, I never heard him refer to McCain as Senator

35 posted on 04/11/2009 1:36:58 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Quix; Joya; TaraP

I truly believe that anyone who doesn’t see through this pathetic propaganda needs their head examined - seriously... Obama DEFINITELY showed fealty to the Saudi King.

It’s like a huge game to him, and we are the pawns he must keep on “his side” of the goal as he fields all the incoming shots — the only problem is, he thinks he’s on the same team as the ones making the threats! And when it all is said and done HE will be the one alone. He doesn’t understand America’s enemies, because he doesn’t understand America, and FREEDOM. If this idiot thinks those Islamic Terrorists won’t parade him in the street, or those Communist Dictator buddies of his are going to tolerate the “Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers”, well, I just think he’s an idiot, frankly...

People think that to consider him a Muslim is crazy... Well, you know what - there are a LOT crazier things going on RIGHT NOW in our world than our President possibly being an ILLEGAL ALIEN, KENYAN-BORN Muslim Extremist Racist TYRANT. We already know this same man has employed a Mad Scientist at the White House that wants to shoot pollution into our atmosphere to “block out the sun’s rays”!!!

We have a bunch of PIRATES threatening OUR NAVY? What world does THAT happen on? SERIOUSLY... We beat pirates out about 200 years ago, did we not? The SEALS could’ve had them for lunch, but I just KNOW Obama is telling them “do not shoot”, “talk to them”, “no violence please” (what he’s not saying, but thinking is — These are my uncles’ Muslim “homies” man, I can’t do nothing...)

I just keep adding to my list of things he and members of his administration have done so suicidally (to us as a nation), and blasphemously wrong... The list could take up a BIG piece of parchment — bigger than the sheet of hemp the Declaration of Indpendance is on — to write them all out I think...

Obama is SYSTEMATICALLY DESTROYING this great nation... And, yeah, go ahead and call me crazy, or a conspiracy theorist, I DON’T CARE! Millions warned about the “one-world economy”, and millions of others called us kooks then too... NO-ONE is laughing now are they?

Either this guy has some “big friends” (not only on Earth — as in Muslims, and Communist Dictator “comrades”, but perhaps even “down below” Earth, too), or he is going to wind up flat on his face, hopefully quite soon, really. It couldn’t happen to a crazier, more ego-maniacal man, really. It’ll be bitter-sweet to see him humiliated in front of the world (on a grander scale than these world leaders are doing at the moment — because they recognize a “weak link” when they see it... They are politicians, and much better politicians than Obama himself, too)

It’s really frustrating to watch this unfold this way though... Thomas Jefferson, Washington, Samuel Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Paine (especially) must be watching down on us and crying rivers of tears right now. HOWEVER!!! I do know that America still has some “fight” left in her — as I know I do! :)

The thing is, I don’t know if we’re ready for this (which is probably why Obama and his side is pushing so hard). It’s as if we’re busy filling up our lamps of oil, and Obama is busy spilling them all out - ON PURPOSE. I see no other possible reason for him to do these things to our country — really, the WORLD. Part of me truly believes that Obama is a Muslim, and that his efforts (even if he’s so deluded as to think he’s still sane), is an attempt to bring forth Islam’s 12th Imam (sometimes considered the Anti-Christ). They want this destruction to take place. They are pushing the knife slowly, and they will start twisting it soon...

As for Obama — the dude is just “sad”. And, when it all comes down to it — after all the lies and webs of deception are for once all sorted out he envisions himself rising as a star, but his mother seemed to miss the end of some of the books she read him about his Communist idols, and his RADICAL Muslim teachers didn’t KNOW the end — it’s not IN their books. Obama is just another “Golden Calf” that has been set up for “World Salvation” and yet again the ignorant masses have fallen for the idol. And when he FAILS — which he will, as they ALL eventually do in one way or another — he may wake up and realize he isn’t really surrounded by true comrades & jihadist friends, either... He’s playing a dangerous game — unfortunately we’re all going to suffer for it.

Europe should take heed — America isn’t their only target, and we won’t be able to come help them this time around folks... Israel already knows we won’t be there. Israel knows evil exists, and recognize Barack as an idol... It’s time for you all to start thinking about how you’re going to stop this in YOUR countries, soon... The relative “peace” in our world was nice while it lasted...

Sorry to ramble — bronchitis meds (a friend said it’s the steroids they’ve got me on for the next couple days! LOL)


36 posted on 04/11/2009 1:40:22 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
“conservatives and Arab-bashers”

I nearly forgot. Time is owned by Bin Talal. Of course.


37 posted on 04/11/2009 1:40:35 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: backhoe

Look closely at the photo. Notice how the trousers bend at the knee on his right leg. Not only did he bow, he was kneeling before his Lord and Master.

0bama wants to put blacks back into slavery, where he thinks they belong.


38 posted on 04/11/2009 1:40:48 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the videotape zapping around the Internet, Obama looks slightly awkward, as if he wasn't quite sure whether to bow, shake hands or do both.

Hey, er, um, Time dude: we supposedly have some protocol experts in Washington who are to see to it this sort of thing doesn't happen. Maybe you might look into it sometime.

39 posted on 04/11/2009 1:41:52 AM PDT by JennysCool (Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action - Ian Fleming)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In Islamic culture people bow in submission to their superiors.

That says it all.


40 posted on 04/11/2009 1:59:31 AM PDT by DB
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