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1 posted on 04/10/2009 12:58:08 PM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite

The money quote:

He says, “If this deep solar minimum continues and our planet cools while CO2 levels continue to rise, thinking needs to change. This will be a very telling time and it’s very, very useful in terms of science and society in my opinion”.


2 posted on 04/10/2009 12:59:14 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: saganite
DONT WASTE MY TIME WITH THIS!!!


3 posted on 04/10/2009 1:00:17 PM PDT by exist
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To: saganite

This doesn’t say that CO2 isn’t a factor in the temperature rise. It says there may be another factor.

What is sadly lacking is a breakdown as to how much of the rise is from which cause.


4 posted on 04/10/2009 1:00:49 PM PDT by gondramB
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bookmark


5 posted on 04/10/2009 1:05:00 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: saganite

Sun spots... Don’t let the science to cut flow of billions of dollars into the “warmers” pockets!


7 posted on 04/10/2009 1:12:48 PM PDT by alecqss
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ping


8 posted on 04/10/2009 1:14:21 PM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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My astronomy class went out yesterday to look at the sun through the telescope and my prof was disappointed that there was no sunspot for us to view. Maybe this is the reason. I linked this email to him.

I’m more interested in this stuff than ever before, mainly because I understand it so much better.


10 posted on 04/10/2009 1:19:18 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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We’re in a deep solar minimum...

we broke a lot of older records around here in SE WA state...

go to the NASA web page, note the years 1954 & 2009

A lot of the records that were broken were recorded back around 1954...

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/images/deepsolarminimum/centuryplot_gif2.gif

Look at 1944... I’m sure any of you WW2 vets that froze your butts off in the Ardennes would find that winter on the chart too...


13 posted on 04/10/2009 1:25:30 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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NASA: Clean-air regs, not CO2, are melting the ice cap
New research from NASA suggests that the Arctic warming trend seen in recent decades has indeed resulted from human activities: but not, as is widely assumed at present, those leading to carbon dioxide emissions. Rather, Arctic warming has been caused in large part by laws introduced to improve air quality and fight acid rain.

Dr Drew Shindell of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies has led a new study which indicates that much of the general upward trend in temperatures since the 1970s - particularly in the Arctic - may have resulted from changes in levels of solid "aerosol" particles in the atmosphere, rather than elevated CO2.


16 posted on 04/10/2009 1:34:20 PM PDT by syriacus (If we outlaw nukes, only outlaws will have nukes.)
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Gee who would have thought that the temperature on earth is somehow connected to the sun’s output. How could that Nobel Prize winning Al Gore have missed such a thing? Perhaps Obama better start thinking about re-engineering the sun so we don’t all freeze. (sarcasm)


18 posted on 04/10/2009 1:37:48 PM PDT by The Great RJ (chain.)
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To: saganite

Actually, the sunspot activity is low because of global warming. I have it on good authority from NASA.


23 posted on 04/10/2009 1:56:50 PM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: saganite

It’s one thing for people to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite *another* to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply *one* video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the *one*...


The following is an *excellent* video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[this is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size...]

It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course...]

Buy it here...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE
[this one would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...]


24 posted on 04/10/2009 1:57:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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I think Algore and his minions should bring a legal case against the sun. The sun shouldn’t be allowed to not have sunspots and to cause global warming! Where’s the justice?!!!! Let’s get the Greenie’s mobilized!!!!!


25 posted on 04/10/2009 2:01:01 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: saganite

bttt


26 posted on 04/10/2009 2:12:31 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: saganite

What it does clearly explain, is that the insulation (the greenhouse) does not set the thermostat - the Sun does; which is observable with your own home.

Just try adding allot of insulation, and then vastly lower your heater’s thermostat, and see how long your house stays warm anyway. In time, it doesn’t. The insulation helps keep in the heat you’ve given it, but it can’t ADD heat, and even the best insulation (highest CO2 count?) does not stop heat loss, and as lower the heat input it will still cool, eventually, if heat-input is continually reduced, your house will become a well insulated freezer, not a “green house”. So too the earth.


34 posted on 04/10/2009 3:44:00 PM PDT by Wuli
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thinking needs to change.

Man-made global warming will change to man-made global cooling.........

We now definitely need government help!

40 posted on 04/10/2009 5:45:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun on an Indy car....)
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Presents reasoned information in re the effect of cloud cover, revealing the complexity of interactions between cloud cover, solar radiation and resultant temperature effects and trends. Yet, I am told, the mathematic models of atmospheric dynamics that heve been used (exploited?) in concocting the carbon dioxide myth do not take into account the effects of clouds. If true, such models do not deserve their name.


44 posted on 04/10/2009 10:22:37 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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If this deep solar minimum continues and our planet cools while CO2 levels continue to rise, thinking needs to change.

Would that be before or after we spend the $20 Trillion to reduce global carbon dioxide emissions?

46 posted on 04/11/2009 8:32:47 PM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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