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Confederate re-enactor pleads not guilty in shooting
hamptonroades ^ | April 9, 2009

Posted on 04/09/2009 10:21:22 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

A Confederate re-enactor has pleaded not guilty to reckless handling of a firearm in the accidental shooting of a Union re-enactor during the filming of a Civil War documentary in September.

Joshua Owen Silva of Norfolk appeared in court Wednesday on the misdemeanor charge, which stemmed from the shooting of 72-year-old Thomas Lord Sr. of Suffolk. A June 24 trial date was set, but prosecutors say they hope to reach a plea agreement with Silva before that.

Lord was struck in the right shoulder by a .45-caliber musket ball during the filming of the "Civil War Overland Campaign Web Series Project." He was treated at a local hospital and released.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; confederate; dixie; dixielist; reenactor; shooting
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1 posted on 04/09/2009 10:21:23 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: manc; GOP_Raider; TenthAmendmentChampion; snuffy smiff; slow5poh; EdReform; TheZMan; ...

// Dixie ping //


2 posted on 04/09/2009 10:22:35 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

Aren’t they supposed to use blanks? Interestingly I read a murder mystery that took place during a reenactment ....


3 posted on 04/09/2009 10:24:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: stainlessbanner

“Lord was struck in the right shoulder by a .45-caliber musket ball”

I bet that hurt!


4 posted on 04/09/2009 10:27:06 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: stainlessbanner

I wonder if it was full charge FFg or if it was a light noise and smoke load.

most of those era muskets would only take around 70 grains of FFg ..quite different from todays inline magnum loads with 150 or more grains

* can also use FFFg in a 45....judgment call


5 posted on 04/09/2009 10:30:47 PM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: stainlessbanner; Non-Sequitur

Hey NS?

Up for a little reenactment?

grin..


6 posted on 04/09/2009 10:31:42 PM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: stainlessbanner

I read about this in Civil War News. They go to great lengths to prevent this.


7 posted on 04/09/2009 10:36:36 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: stainlessbanner
Lord was struck in the right shoulder by a .45-caliber musket ball during the filming of the "Civil War Overland Campaign Web Series Project."

What REALLY sucked was that they took him to a reenacted field hospital and sawed his arm off without anesthesia.

8 posted on 04/09/2009 10:37:46 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: stainlessbanner

BAN ASSAULT MUSKETS.


9 posted on 04/09/2009 10:38:12 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: SIDENET

Don’t give them any “brilliant” ideas.


10 posted on 04/09/2009 10:39:07 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: SkyDancer

Again, a case of media firearms ignorance. It was likely a .45 caliber pistol ball, since about 99% of reenactors use long arms that fire .58 to .69 caliber projectiles.


11 posted on 04/09/2009 10:40:06 PM PDT by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Can you really run a ballistics check on a a .45-caliber musket ball?


12 posted on 04/09/2009 10:44:15 PM PDT by babygene (It seems that stupidity is the most abundant element in the universe)
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To: babygene

Trace that bullet all the way back to the lead mines of Galena Illinois.


13 posted on 04/09/2009 10:54:10 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: babygene

using the ‘rod system’ I would say yes.....and yes it is late, the purple bag jug is empty so I will now STFU.


14 posted on 04/09/2009 10:57:08 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: wardaddy
most of those era muskets would only take around 70 grains of FFg ..quite different from todays inline magnum loads with 150 or more grains

Almost all of the re-enactors use replica muzzle loaders -- any surviving original is way too rare and expensive to carry around in the field.

The replicas are built with modern steel and can take what would be substantial overloads for the originals.

I have seen a 150 lb feral hog hit with a .58 cal ball, which penetrated completely through the lungs and ended up just under the skin on the side opposite the entrance wound. The ball had expanded to a flat piece of lead just about the size of a US Quarter.

15 posted on 04/09/2009 11:25:30 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: stainlessbanner
"Lord was struck in the right shoulder by a .45-caliber musket ball during the filming of the "Civil War Overland Campaign Web Series Project." He was treated at a local hospital and released."

Out of range.

They didn't march 50 yards apart for nothing, Joshua Owen Silva. Next year don't fire until you reach the line and hear the command...

LMAO

16 posted on 04/09/2009 11:39:27 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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"most of those era muskets would only take around 70 grains of FFg ..quite different from todays inline magnum loads with 150 or more grains

* can also use FFFg in a 45....judgment call

You can stick 90 grains FFF in them no problem. Only if the barrel is old, pitted and generally not taken good care of would you want to cut that down a bit. Or a 50 cal. 90gr is a little uncomfortable for a 50 cal flintlock style musket. I have a 50 carbine percussion cap that I have no problem stuffing 110 grains of FFF in, launching a 180 grain hornady 45 cal boattail/sabot. knocks deer right off their feet at 200 yards, 4 inches drop.

17 posted on 04/09/2009 11:53:02 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: CurlyDave

Yep! Replica’s have some real good abilities if you aren’t afraid to use them.
I love shooting my 50cal carbine. It knocks down moose @100yards with ease. I always use either a 44 or 45 cal Hornady bullet and sabot combo depending on what I’m shooting at. Anything bigger than a deer gets a .45 of one style or another. No pistol bullets though. I find they are too short and fly apart too much, ruining meat. They are fast and kill well enough, but they really fly apart too.


18 posted on 04/10/2009 12:05:04 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: stainlessbanner
"Lord was struck in the right shoulder by a .45-caliber musket ball during the filming of the "Civil War Overland Campaign Web Series Project." He was treated at a local hospital and released."

The victim is lucky he still has an arm!

19 posted on 04/10/2009 12:53:00 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: stainlessbanner
Not a .45 bullet, but a .44 bullet. Stupid reporter. .45 caliber didn't exist in the 1860s and is never used at re-enactments. The guys was probably shooting either an 1851 Colt or an 1858 Remington repro pistol.


20 posted on 04/10/2009 3:58:53 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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