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USS San Francisco Leaves Bremerton After Long Stay
Kitsap Sun ^ | 7 Apr 09 | Staff

Posted on 04/09/2009 9:51:47 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY

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To: ErnBatavia

I am just a couple miles from Naval Base Kitsap I guess they call it that know rather than “Trident Base” I remember when this accident happened telling a friend of mine who is civilian and in charge of large shop that the Captain or whoever was on watch should be in trouble but he said no way. I guess they just haul ass anywhere they want and damn the undersea mounts. I didn’t realize the sub was here the whole time but glad to see it’s back in service.


41 posted on 04/09/2009 10:58:17 AM PDT by Delmont
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To: GATOR NAVY
Glancing hit. Lucky. The sub must of been kicked to starboard. If it had hit dead on, with all the mass of the boat behind it....


42 posted on 04/09/2009 11:06:17 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: GATOR NAVY

The sub will be going from the East coast to the West coast.

I wonder if it will be coming through the Panama Canal? If it is, it will not be advertised.

But I sure would like to see it.


43 posted on 04/09/2009 11:08:27 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: rednesss

Actually, looking at your cut away drawing, it doesn’t even look as if it really penetrated much past the first ballast tank. You can see the torpedo shudder doors in the picture.

Your cut away is of a 688I class (vertical launch tubes, retractable bow planes, D2W reactor core) while the San Fran was a flight 1 boat (no vertical launch tubes, D1G core). FYI, the reactor compartment and engine room in the cut away are not that accurate.

The cut away might be a little off in terms of where the shudder doors are, but I don’t know. I can’t really tell where the GRP dome for the sonar sphere ends, as that would be the begining of the first ballast tank. It’s been a while since I last looked at official navy manuals...


44 posted on 04/09/2009 11:14:27 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: Jeff Head

FYI — they build ‘em good in Newport News.


45 posted on 04/09/2009 11:15:16 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: OA5599
That started with the SSN-718 I think.

Nope--vertical launch started with USS Providence. (SSN-719)
46 posted on 04/09/2009 11:16:46 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Robe

Memory failed; should have looked it up first. The VLS tubes were first installed on the SSN 719 (USS Providence), NOT the SSN 718 (USS Honolulu).


48 posted on 04/09/2009 11:22:56 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: GATOR NAVY
Here is a closeup and a news article with a first-hand account. Strategypage.com also has more detailed photos, including what's under the tarp (the damaged sonar).
49 posted on 04/09/2009 11:33:21 AM PDT by zaphod3000
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To: GATOR NAVY

Eh, a little Bondo, a little hunnert-mile-an-hour tape, it’ll buff right out.

Amazing. It’s scary how close the San Francisco came to joining the Scorpion and the Thresher “eternally on patrol.”

}:-)4


50 posted on 04/09/2009 1:21:31 PM PDT by Moose4 (Hey RNC. Don't move toward the middle. MOVE THE MIDDLE TOWARD YOU.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

“It was not the captain’s fault. The dang mountain wasn’t mapped. No one knew it was there until the sub hit it.”

But they mapped the Ocean floor already? Is it possible the mountain rose up from the floor since the mapping?


51 posted on 04/09/2009 1:27:35 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I can’t answer you question because I don’t know.

There are a couple of ex navy folks on this thread that can help.

Thank you for asking though.


52 posted on 04/09/2009 1:35:52 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I checked it out - it was marked on some maps as “discolored water”. they should have carried that data over which is what some of the reprimands were about


53 posted on 04/09/2009 2:08:46 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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“It was not the captain’s fault. The dang mountain wasn’t mapped. No one knew it was there until the sub hit it.”

This is one of the responsibilities of command. The navigation team failed, and the CO, or XO should have caught it.

54 posted on 04/09/2009 3:02:48 PM PDT by WalterGrey
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To: namsman

Sub ping!


55 posted on 04/11/2009 8:53:35 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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