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Reprehensible Penn State Training Film: "How to deal with Worrisome Veterans."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhLq9NPLv0M ^

Posted on 04/08/2009 4:04:08 AM PDT by NY Patriot

This despicable video needs to be seen by as many people as possible.

The basic gist of it is...

"Dean Smith, I'm having a problem with one of my students.

See... he's a war criminal, oh I mean veteran & he is not unquestionably swallowing our leftist propaganda hook, line & sinker. He's very confrontational & disruptive... he challenges my assertions in front of the other students, asks that I provide objective data to back up my claims, and he actually has the nerve to espouse ideas that run contrary to our ideology.

I'm at my wits end & don't know what to do Dean Smith. Has Obama (all praise be unto him) announced when the reeducations camps will be opened, because my list of candidates is just getting longer with each passing semester?"


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: academia; antiusa; antivet; dhs; homelandsecurity; janetnapolitano; napolitano; obama; obamanation; pennstate; propaganda; psu; urlisnotthesource; veterans
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To: NY Patriot

Imagine the MSM uproar if Penn State produced a training film called “How to Deal with Worrisome Homosexuals”.


21 posted on 04/08/2009 4:52:27 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: NY Patriot

If they took the word “veteran” out of the video, it would be very realistic. We get one or two threatening nut cases every year. They are seldom veterans. Most often, they are male children of rich parents. They are functionally illiterate and don’t feel a need to show up on time, or at all. I don’t know how they got through high school without the ability to write a complete sentence or perform basic arithmetic.

I regularly get the “but I worked very hard on this and I need a B” line out of students with God awful papers that don’t address the assignment.

“Why is class attendance required? I’m paying your salary.”
“I didn’t feel well. Can I turn this in next week?”
“Is this on the test?”
“I’ll hire an accountant to do this. Why should I learn all of this numbers stuff?”

It is quite common for students to show up in the Dean’s office with a parent and an attorney when they don’t get the grade they want. If they spent ten percent as much time on the assignment as they did on complaining and expecting a B for doing nothing, they would get better grades.

And... Don’t get me started on cheating. That seems to be a given with the majority of students.

Thank God for the ten percent of students who actually learn the material and use it.


22 posted on 04/08/2009 4:53:02 AM PDT by Poser (Typed on my Woot-off $169 Asus Web Book (Linux of course))
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To: NY Patriot

I’m not sure what to make of this.

First, there are certainly problem situations where students think they deserve better grades than they get. That’s actually a very common problem. If the kid has been taught through the years that he can do no wrong (modern parenting at work) then he’s going to blame someone or something for his shortcomings (rather than himself). It’s quite common for students to blame their job situations, personal lives, and teachers.

On the other hand, it’s quite possible that teachers do in fact take out liberal biases on their conservative students. This has happened to me and I imagine it’s happened to many people. (It makes news when one of them calls a radio show, for example.) The fact that in this example the student was a veteran is not necessarily relevant, as he doesn’t talk about politics or the war much other than to present the conflict between his views and the teachers. Make no mistake, that alone would get a student a lower grade.

All in all, it’s really the unnecessary portrayal of the student as a veteran that injects politics into it. Maybe they were trying to make it “modern” or whatever but it comes off as being in bad taste.


23 posted on 04/08/2009 4:53:23 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: NY Patriot

I have had a similar problem with a prof.

The essay topic was the use of nuclear weapons in WWII. Only students who condemned the bombings got good grades, the ones like me who felt the bombings were acceptable had grammar and composition problems that lowered our grades.

When I mentioned this I was accused of being confrontational (I was, after all, confronting the prof!) and irrational. I got backup from the other irrational crazies in the class, which de-escalated the prof’s attack on me.

There are hints of that in the vid though nothing I can put my finger on.


24 posted on 04/08/2009 4:55:16 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: flintsilver7

The “psycho vet” is one of the oldest Hollywood and fiction literature foils there is. Another is the “hooker with a heart of gold.”


25 posted on 04/08/2009 4:59:19 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: NY Patriot

Time to boot the left-wing elitists off the the university campuses.


26 posted on 04/08/2009 5:00:41 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: NY Patriot

This veteran should turn that professor into their local District Attorney (and then the Attorney General).... Get a lawyer!!


27 posted on 04/08/2009 5:02:11 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: NY Patriot

I’m speechless about the video and the way they depict the veteran.

My kid isn’t a vet and has given up on playing the walk-on-egg-shells game with some very liberal profs at his school. He’s gone from all A-B to C’s in some classes and just doesn’t give a damn about it anymore. The decline in grade is purely retaliatory for not regurgitating the ideological kool-aid.


28 posted on 04/08/2009 5:02:49 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Poser

““Why is class attendance required?”

I’d like to know that too. If I complete the assigned work and pass the tests why should I be forced to attended a set number of class days under penalty of grade reduction?


29 posted on 04/08/2009 5:05:44 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Right Wing Assault
Yeah, those darn veterans. They are stupid, can’t write, have bad grammar, don’t respect authority, can’t carry on a civil conversation. And, they seem as if they are about to pull out a weapon and shoot up the campus.

Ewe beter shut the heck up or eyem gonna find ewe an take care ov bizness!

30 posted on 04/08/2009 5:25:45 AM PDT by TankerKC (Revenge and Envy--the new Principles of Freerepublic?)
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To: NY Patriot

Whats does the UNC BB coach have to do with Penn State...? :)


31 posted on 04/08/2009 5:27:29 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: NY Patriot

Well, more Hope and Change personified. Demonize the military; characterize them as dangerous and unstable in order to blacken their image. Screw off, PSU. I once thought better of you, but no more.


32 posted on 04/08/2009 5:46:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

“The video about how to deal with inner city students must be really short. Gangsta shows up with his posse and declares “I says I gets an A.” The professor meekly says “OK.”

Let’s see. Gangstas DON’T go to Penn State. End of scenario.


33 posted on 04/08/2009 5:46:31 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Rebelbase
We've had that discussion several times here on FR. Students wondering if they should hold to their principles or just give the liberal prof what he wants to hear. No easy answer to that one.

I'm sure the University is working hard on this problem this video caused and will make sure the person who leaked it is severely punished.

34 posted on 04/08/2009 5:47:12 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: 6SJ7

“Imagine the MSM uproar if Penn State produced a training film called “How to Deal with Worrisome Homosexuals”.

or...

“How to Deal with Worrisome Muslims”.


35 posted on 04/08/2009 5:47:26 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

“Students wondering if they should hold to their principles or just give the liberal prof what he wants to hear.”

Grammar problems — and believe me, plenty of college students have them — are not a matter of liberal or conservative. Grammar is grammar.

The student in this video, no matter who he is, appears to think he deserves a B just because he says he worked hard and he’s there. This is what professors see all the time. Why aren’t Freepers outraged by his entitlement attitude?


36 posted on 04/08/2009 6:02:01 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: HoosierHawk

I read that — I am rapdily coming to the conclusion that the Loyola (Chicago) instructor writing that, along with anyone else that disconnected from reality, needs to be put down like a dog that has gone mad from rabies. A lunatic such as the instructor at the other side of that link, is a danger to the community, in an order of magnitude greater than a rabid dog.

I won’t even comment about the Iraqi or Moslem students sitting in a classroom at private university that charges tuition in amounts 95% of academically qualified US citizens aged 18 could not afford...


37 posted on 04/08/2009 6:02:51 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: NY Patriot
And yet we continue to support government run and "public education" indoctrination.
38 posted on 04/08/2009 6:03:53 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: popdonnelly

The ideological split in this country has become irreconcilable.

We need a good, hardline split where their policies don’t affect us, and where they can do their own thing and live in their resulting utopia.

Wait... that’s the way the founders set things up in the first place!


39 posted on 04/08/2009 6:07:16 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Rebelbase

“If I complete the assigned work and pass the tests why should I be forced to attended a set number of class days under penalty of grade reduction?”

Um... Because we discuss things that aren’t on the test? The assigned work is designed to augment the class discussions and activities. It is not the complete course.

Today, my Business Policy class will discuss the expansion of a 26 acre business site. The students who show up, will hear and discuss at least 15 different possibilities, including finances, marketing, ethical and legal issues. Those that don’t show up, will turn in a paper with one solution. They may do well on the paper, but they will not have learned as much as those in attendance.


40 posted on 04/08/2009 6:10:15 AM PDT by Poser (Typed on my Woot-off $169 Asus Web Book (Linux of course))
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